jezzaboy Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Just seen another topic re how to audition a singer. Well here is the "after the audition" topic. Edited January 16, 2021 by jezzaboy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigyin Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 If singer A ticks all the boxes but just lacks a bit of balls I would give him the nod like everything he will only get better. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steantval Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Singer A on all counts. Singer B although having the stronger voice would be a absolute nightmare based on these early signs, personally wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Steve Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 A couple of times I've invited singers back for a second go, where there was certainly promise and to see if they could improve, or on one occasion where the band was split with half thinking a particular singer was a great bloke who would fit right in and the other half thinking he was a talentless oaf who couldn't carry a tune in a bucket (the second half were right, as the tape of the second audition proved) so might be worth asking A back to see if he can improve and give a better impression of his singing. Or possibly both of them, to see if B reverts to type and fails to turn up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHM Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 First rule of interviewing, eliminate candidates who aren't appointable. So rather than compare A with B, ask the question of each 'is s/he good enough to join the band?' This will then leave you with two, one or no candidates, so you can move on to the next stage of the process. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Singer A has the right credentials and attitude - with a bit of coaching could improve. A bit more confidence he could come on leaps and bounds. Singer B has the wrong credentials - seems like he can't be arsed already, wants to go home early and isn't taking it seriously IMO. I'd go with singer A personally, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) I’d go along with the majority and appoint singer B. I’d then bugger off and let them deal with the consequences 🥳 Edited June 11, 2019 by oldslapper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Audition them again, maybe with more time the first guy will sound miles better and it will also give a chance to the second guy to show if he's going to communicate and not be a total PITA. We auditioned new singers a few years ago, first audition was very close between two of the girls so so we asked them both back and the second time it was an easy choice. Also don't deal with all the communication this time, leave it to one of the other members who were enamoured with the PITA guy. You might find they change their mind when they're the ones trying to organise someone who is so blasé with other people's time and schedules. Recruiting a band member who CBA to reply to messages is setting yourself up for a headache. Edited June 11, 2019 by lemmywinks 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbass6 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) I'd invite them both back for another run through of the songs but let them know that they have been "whittled" done to, the last 2 singers. They don't have to know that there weren't other applicants and maybe, knowing that they are "THE" two choices, it may give them added incentive to pick up their games either 1) vocally and 2) communication and enthusiasm wise. I think nerves may also have a part to play, too. It manifests itself in funny ways sometimes. Meeting new people especially in a group situation can be quite unnerving, as we are all aware. Maybe a 2nd audition will improve their confidence. Good luck either way ⭐ Edited June 11, 2019 by mattbass6 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 Thanks for all the helpful replies. Getting the 2 of them back down is a fine idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Steve Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I suggest that you give some helpful, positive feedback to contestant A, let him know the areas you think he can improve on... ...although I did once do that to a singer who had a great voice but clearly wasn't a good fit for the band's music. Didn't go down very well, and I got a huffy "well if you don't think I'm right what's the point in me wasting my time coming back" response. So be gentle and encouraging, and maybe not too blunt about their shortcomings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBike Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I'd tell them both that you can't decide and ask them back again. You've got 2 options 1 - Give them no feedback on your dilemmas and see if anything changes 2 - Tell them both what aspects of the audtions went well and what didn't go well and see if anything changes I'd personally go with the one who identifies what went wrong and tries to fix it rather than someone who is oblivious to what's going on around and doesn't change/adapt. Just imagine what it's like learning new songs with someone who can't doesn't communicate well and doesn't seem to be too bothered. At the end of the day a band relies on everyone to pull their weight ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 singer A will or should improve with time, singer B will never change his fundamental personality flaws, ie late to reply, no real input etc, to me its a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Singer A all the way. No need for a second audition. Decent singer singing songs he didn't choose, enthusiastic,so would be better at ones he did, good at communicating, eager and has a good pa. Why bother with B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHM Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 just now I showed the breaking news pic to our drummer who immediately replied 'fake news'! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) On 15/06/2019 at 11:06, la bam said: Singer A all the way. No need for a second audition. Decent singer singing songs he didn't choose, enthusiastic,so would be better at ones he did, good at communicating, eager and has a good pa. Why bother with B? I totally agree with this and other similar views. Edited January 16, 2021 by jezzaboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I'm possibly on my own a bit here but neither would have got the job for me. Forget B. Waste of time. A sounds like a really nice guy but if it's a side project then you have a bit more time to find someone who can be the best of both A & B. The two members of a band that have to be absolutely right are singers and drummers. A singer is the face of the band so he or she needs to be excellent and confident but they also need to be a team member and someone you want to work with. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintspiller Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Have things changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingsta Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I'd agree with the sentiment that with singers, you need to have your cake and eat it. They need to be great vocalists, no point stepping out without a good front man, no matter how good the band is, but they need to be at least tolerable on the personality/organisation side and have the same work ethic as the rest of the band. Our singist does the work and delivers the goods, so we can live with the occasional hissy fit and even have a bit of a laugh about a few years later after he's calmed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Ah, the joys of only playing solo 😊. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) On 25/06/2019 at 21:52, pintspiller said: Have things changed? Nah. I have decided to knock it on the head. Mr Ambient, you are so right! 👌 Edited January 16, 2021 by jezzaboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Best get the main band sorted out first. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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