redzombie Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) Sorry for the dumb question, but if I put one of these at the beginning of my effects chain, will it effectively make my passive bass an EQ-less active? I'm thinking of getting one, so I can keep volume levels the same when I change basses. Since it can increase volume, it made me wonder. Edited December 17, 2008 by redzombie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I would imagine it reduces signal level, rather than increasing it. You would have it turned on to reduce the level of your actives, and off to balance with your passives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOD2 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 No - not if I understand the blurb about it correctly. It's an "attenuator". That means it CUTS volume rather than adds volume. I think the idea here is that you can preset a lower volume setting using this box and switch to that or full volume (box bypassed) with the footswitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redzombie Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Ah gotcha, thank you both for your help, you've saved me some potential disappointment. I think I'll just pick up a clean boost instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~tl Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I think the phrase "[b]Passive[/b] Attenuator" on the front of the pedal says it all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redzombie Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) [quote name='~tl' post='357211' date='Dec 17 2008, 06:11 PM']I think the phrase "[b]Passive[/b] Attenuator" on the front of the pedal says it all...[/quote] LOL I should've read the effing small print! It's honestly barely readable to me, unless I get right up close to my monitor. Edited December 17, 2008 by redzombie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutToPlayJazz Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 The Sadowsky Preamp pedal/di or the new Aguilar Tone Hammer are other ways of doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass_ferret Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) Or Sansamp, EBS MBII, MXR etc. Lots of products to suit any budget. Perhaps you should get a new monitor first though Edited December 18, 2008 by bass_ferret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redzombie Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) LOL, I'll be getting a new monitor in Feburary hopefully once I've finished off my pedalboard (nearly there). I already have 2 Sansamps always on, I do a pseudo bi-amping thing with an LS-2, one Sansamp in each loop. An extra Sansamp-type device is a bit overkill for what I'm looking for I might give the MXR Micro Amp a go, though I've heard it can be a tad noisy. TBH I didn't really wanna spend much more than £50. I know there's the EHX LBP-1 but, a few people have told me that it adds it's own character to your tone I want something as clean as possible. I might just get a cheap EQ pedal and only use the level control. Harley Benton do a decent enough GEB7 knock off, I already own one so I'll have to try it at rehersal tomorrow. EDIT: Actually bollocks, I'm being completely thick. I'll just get another EQ and put it between my board and passive bass, whenever I use it. That way it has an outboard EQ as well as something to keep the volume equal with my active (provided 15db of boost is enough). Thanks for the suggestions Edited December 18, 2008 by redzombie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 [quote name='redzombie' post='356982' date='Dec 17 2008, 02:27 PM']Sorry for the dumb question, but if I put one of these at the beginning of my effects chain, will it effectively make my passive bass an EQ-less active? I'm thinking of getting one, so I can keep volume levels the same when I change basses. Since it can increase volume, it made me wonder. [...][/quote] I think this might be exactly what you’re looking for but you need to make it work in "reverse". If you have two basses (e.g. #1 active-hot output, #2 passive), you need to keep the pedal on when you use bass #1 and off when you use bass #2. Compared to other solutions, this pedal, thanks to its simplicity, does not alter the sound in any way. As far as I can understand, the signal goes only through a passive attenuator, without any transistor-based circuit/component. In a nutshell, apart from a different volume level, the pedal shouldn’t affect the signal or add any noise. I have been building similar pedals (in a smaller size) and users always find them very effective. I hope the above helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Also check to see if your active bass has an internal trimpot to reduce the volume to match your passive bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 [quote name='redzombie' post='357683' date='Dec 18 2008, 11:14 AM']I might give the MXR Micro Amp a go, though I've heard it can be a tad noisy.[/quote] not in my experience - i've owned two and they were both fine...no noise issues at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 [quote name='Silent Fly' post='357804' date='Dec 18 2008, 12:29 PM']I think this might be exactly what you’re looking for but you need to make it work in "reverse". If you have two basses (e.g. #1 active-hot output, #2 passive), you need to keep the pedal on when you use bass #1 and off when you use bass #2. Compared to other solutions, this pedal, thanks to its simplicity, does not alter the sound in any way. As far as I can understand, the signal goes only through a passive attenuator, without any transistor-based circuit/component. In a nutshell, apart from a different volume level, the pedal shouldn’t affect the signal or add any noise. I have been building similar pedals (in a smaller size) and users always find them very effective. I hope the above helps.[/quote] you do lose some treble bleeding signal to the ground but thats about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 [quote name='umph' post='357934' date='Dec 18 2008, 02:16 PM']you do lose some treble bleeding signal to the ground but thats about it[/quote] Good point - but this happens only if the source is a passive bass. If the bass is active like in this case, the pedal will not affect the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorris Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 if you're handy, or know someone who is, with a soldering iron and resistors etc it might be worth rewiring the volume pot on the active bass so that its maximum output matches that of the passive. Assuming the active doesn't have a trimpot to do that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 or just get someone to make you a preamp in a box thats switchable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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