YouMa Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Yes hungover,but let's be honest here the basis of most British rap music is whinging about social injustices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalextra Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Geek99 said: If no grime artist wants men over 45 listening - where does that leave Tim Westwood ? Blimey, is he still around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Riva Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Geek99 said: If no grime artist wants men over 45 listening - where does that leave Tim Westwood ? Stuck in his local A&E after putting his back out again breakdancing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 6 hours ago, project_c said: Not true, grime is huge these days, it’s very popular in the USA. Drake is putting music out on Skepta’s label, Stomzy is hanging out with Jay-z, Dizzee is doing stuff with US rappers - not saying any of it is any good (most of it is terrible) but US rappers have definitely embraced UK grime. And look at Trap, arguably the most popular genre in the US for the past few years - it’s pretty much grime / dubstep beats adapted to a slightly more mainstream audience. Then look at all the soundcloud rappers, all that mumble rap stuff, it’s connected to both UK grime and US rap. It’s far from a UK only thing - that was true maybe 10 years ago, but these days it’s way beyond that. I think there’s an element of ‘showing our age’ in threads like this - we are essentially a bunch of middle aged men talking about a genre of music which is created by 23 year olds to appeal to people between 12-25. It’s kids music, it’s not really meant for us. Plus if I was a 25 year old rapper, I definitely wouldn’t want a bunch of 45yr old men listening to my music. It might be quite a big deal in US rap circles but with respect to the US mainstream it's not a big deal at all as RIAA stats show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: Again, don’t know if it fits the genre, but I like this.... 2 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: This was one of songs I was sent. I have no idea which sub-genre it sits in. I was told grime, but you may tell me otherwise. Really well put together I think.... I don’t know what you’d call those first two, but I wouldn’t call them grime. Grime is more like UK council estate gangsta rap with atonal metal riffs played on a Bontempi organ. Edited July 1, 2019 by dannybuoy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skol303 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, YouMa said: Sick of hearing rappers whinge constantly. Just like I'm sick of hearing "young people" whinge. If you don't like it here sod off to somewhere else and whinge there otherwise deal with it. Haha, yeah. By contrast, "old people" never whinge. Nope. Not known for it in the slightest. Never happens. "Hi Roger! How's your mood today? Oh..." “Hey Steven! What's that? You’d like to say something about meat-eating and contemporary politics? Oh. Oh dear..." "Well, perhaps if you don't like it here you could both sod off to somewhere else and whinge there. Otherwise deal with it. Okay?" ...yeah I really don't think young people have a monopoly on moaning in the music industry 😉 Edited July 1, 2019 by Skol303 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Old people have a right to whinge because they are sick of young people whinging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
operative451 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, YouMa said: Yes hungover,but let's be honest here the basis of most British rap music is whinging about social injustices. Social injustice! How dare people whinge about such things! Next thing you know they'll be wanting the vote! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Exactly!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
project_c Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 3 hours ago, YouMa said: Sick of hearing rappers whinge constantly. Just like I'm sick of hearing "young people" whinge. If you don't like it here sod off to somewhere else and whinge there otherwise deal with it. Hope you don't mind, I took a little photo of you while you were typing that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Hahaha. Nice one the acts really coming along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 3 hours ago, mentalextra said: Blimey, is he still around? Sadly - looking ever sadder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthedog Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: @dannyboy - noted. I’m not one for genres anyway. There are two as far as I’m concerned, Country aaaand Western 🤪 Fixed that for you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 On 30/06/2019 at 15:51, bubinga5 said: Oh dear where do I start. I love HipHop, old/new/ gangster/funky/alternative /skate. Herbaliser, GangStarr, DJ Premier. Jurassic5 east coast, west coast, south north, Euro Rap. really interesting samples, scratching, amazing subject matter etc etc... But Grime. Its like they have got a Casio keyboard and a drum machine and then rapped over it.Its sooooo boring. Is Grime a UK thing.? I hear Capital One at work and its literally all they play. I feel like smashing the radio with a claw hammer after 3 hours of it. I don’t know if it’s a sign I’m getting old, or I should get out more, but apart from hip hop I have no idea what any of those are 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJpullchord Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 It was okay 15 years ago. Something fresh. Get with the times, guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmaster62 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Evolution of grime and trap - this guy should be blowing up any week now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, YouMa said: Yes hungover,but let's be honest here the basis of most British rap music is whinging about social injustices. LIkewise the basis of most British acoustic guitar singer songwriter music is whinging about feeling fragile and broken and hurt and terrified. The reason for this widespread spinelessness is not that the artistes in question are feeling fragile and broken and hurt and terrified. Not a bit of it. Exactly like their pop forerunners the stars of today are bathing in cash, driving expensive cars, snorking cocaine by the kilo and slipping the brisket to anything with a pulse. The difference is that their fans are not bathing in cash, driving expensive cars, snorking cocaine by the kilo or slipping the brisket to anything with a pulse. Their fans feel fragile and broken and hurt and terrified and are buying music to reflect their mood. Do these fans feel fragile and broken and hurt and terrified because they are not driving expensive cars, snorking cocaine by the kilo and slipping the brisket to anything with a pulse? Or is it because they are genuinely fragile and broken and hurt and terrified? And if the fans of British acoustic guitar singer songwriter music genuinely are fragile and broken and hurt and terrified is it because they have been taught to feel this way by a generation of howling pinko social workers, commie educators and loathsome 'journalists'? Or are they fragile and broken and hurt and terrified because they are in a sense cut from shoddier cloth than those who came before. And would repeated listening to The Immigrant Song or Ace of Spades or The End put some much-needed iron in their souls? I do not know but I think we should be told. Edited July 1, 2019 by skankdelvar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyman Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) I’m down with the kids so I was going to respond with “word” and a couple of little fist-bumpy icons. But the nice man from the broadband people didn’t show me where the little emoji-ma-flips live so you’ll have to make do with a “well said, sir” instead. Searing analysis as ever, Mr D. Oh, and isn’t Flash tough on grime? Edited July 1, 2019 by Skinnyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, Skinnyman said: Oh, and isn’t Flash tough on grime? Flash! Ah-ah Saviour of the universe! Flash! Ah-ah He'll save everyone of us! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyman Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 hours ago, skankdelvar said: Flash! Ah-ah Saviour of the universe! Flash! Ah-ah He'll save everyone of us! With his strangely tiny right hand? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Beadle! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyd Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 I couldn't listen to too much Grime but then it's not aimed at me (old bloke). But I can appreciate how it appeals to "the kids". There was a great article in The Guardian the other day about Fight The Power by Public Enemy (30 years ago) and I remembered how it sounded to me at the time but I'm sure it sounded pretty discordant and noisy to a lot of middle-aged people. I think it's also worth making a distinction between music that has a bit of actual creativity to it, versus the safer, blander stuff that you get in all genres. The Grime that I've heard does seem to have something new (sonically at least - I don't really listen to lyrics). In general, I'd rather live in a world where people are creating new types of music even if I personally don't listen to them 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 9 hours ago, Skinnyman said: I’m down with the kids You certainly are, and one of the best UK rappers to boot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyman Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 hours ago, dannybuoy said: You certainly are, and one of the best UK rappers to boot! Hahaha! That man is an imposter! I am Skinnyman (and so is my wife!). weirdly, it does look as if they filmed it outside our house.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Skinnyman said: With his strangely tiny right hand? I was wondering who'd be the first to spot that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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