molan Posted July 11, 2019 Posted July 11, 2019 5 hours ago, funkle said: That sounds pretty incredible. What amp was he using, and where was the gig? MarkBass MultiAmp, I checked back and what happened was that he simply left the amp on top of the cab for a longish period of time. The feet of the amp somehow ‘melted’ into the Tolex and the tolex started to lift away when he tried to remove the amp! The MultiAmp isn’t at all heavy and, in my personal experience, doesn’t generate much heat. 1 Quote
scrumpymike Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 17 hours ago, molan said: MarkBass MultiAmp, I checked back and what happened was that he simply left the amp on top of the cab for a longish period of time. The feet of the amp somehow ‘melted’ into the Tolex and the tolex started to lift away when he tried to remove the amp! The MultiAmp isn’t at all heavy and, in my personal experience, doesn’t generate much heat. Just in the interests of fairness, let's not rule out the possibility that his amp was running too hot. Had a fan malfunction on one of mine a while back and couldn't believe how hot it got in the half hour before I noticed. Quote
Merton Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) I mentioned this on another thread, the chaps at Barefaced have recently changed their glue AND their tolex to a different brand. The original glue we can all agree was shite and after a few years they came to the same conclusion about the tolex. When left in warm environments the old tolex would shrink, and coupled with the crap glue caused the problems people encountered. The glue changed but the tolex didn’t so there were still “smaller” issues as seen with @funkle and @mcnach. They’ve now changed the glue again, and also the tolex, so as to mitigate the shrinking issues and the glue failures. This new tolex is easier to work apparently and therefore if any peeling occurs with this then it will be significantly easier to re-stick. Of course ideally no peeling should occur at all. I’ll keep an eye on my One10 cabs because one has old tolex and second iteration glue and one has new tolex and third iteration glue... Edited July 13, 2019 by Merton Stopped being distracted selling the missus so sorted this out proper like 1 Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, Merton said: therefore if any peeing occurs with this then it will be significantly easier to re-stick Wouldn't it make sense to use a waterproof adhesive under such circumstances... 1 Quote
Merton Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: Wouldn't it make sense to use a waterproof adhesive under such circumstances... Probably. Maybe they do and I’ve misrepresented them. I’m just recalling a conversation I had when my second cab arrived last month Quote
mcnach Posted July 12, 2019 Author Posted July 12, 2019 23 hours ago, molan said: MarkBass MultiAmp, I checked back and what happened was that he simply left the amp on top of the cab for a longish period of time. The feet of the amp somehow ‘melted’ into the Tolex and the tolex started to lift away when he tried to remove the amp! The MultiAmp isn’t at all heavy and, in my personal experience, doesn’t generate much heat. Especially at the feet... Hmmm... Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted July 12, 2019 Posted July 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Merton said: Probably. Maybe they do and I’ve misrepresented them. I’m just recalling a conversation I had when my second cab arrived last month Err.. look carefully at what you wrote: 9 hours ago, Merton said: if any peeing occurs I think you may have a sticky 'L' key... 🙂 1 Quote
LukeFRC Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Merton said: Oops! Loops to you too! 3 Quote
Al Krow Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 18 hours ago, Merton said: Of course ideally no peeing should occur at all. Agreed. You said the reason for your edit was to change 'peeing' to 'peeling', but I think you're still taking the p*iss 😁 1 Quote
bazzbass Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 At the price point BF are at I'd expect better quality, even my 70s Peavey TNT had bullet proofed covering...... 1 Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Agreed. You said the reason for your edit was to change 'peeing' to 'peeling', but I think you're still taking the p*iss 😁 Yes, the edit only got one, the post's still showing signs of post-void dribbling. 1 Quote
Al Krow Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: Yes, the edit only got one, the post's still showing signs of post-void dribbling. I think he's clearly been distracted by the wife sale he's currently undertaking. 1 Quote
Al Krow Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, bazzbass said: At the price point BF are at I'd expect better quality, even my 70s Peavey TNT had bullet proofed covering...... That's actually a very fair point. It is, no question, in the high end price bracket for cabs and getting things like a quality finish sorted should go hand in hand. 2 Quote
LukeFRC Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, bazzbass said: At the price point BF are at I'd expect better quality, even my 70s Peavey TNT had bullet proofed covering...... Im guessing small workshops could use stronger glues in the 70s compared to now Quote
AndyTravis Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, Al Krow said: I think he's clearly been distracted by the wife sale he's currently undertaking. Yeah. That’s been stopped now. 😉 Quote
Merton Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Stub Mandrel said: Yes, the edit only got one, the post's still showing signs of post-void dribbling. Dammit 😂 Sorted. I hope 🤦🏼♂️ Quote
Al Krow Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 20 hours ago, Merton said: I mentioned this on another thread, the chaps at Barefaced have recently changed their glue AND their tolex to a different brand. The original glue we can all agree was shite and after a few years they came to the same conclusion about the tolex. When left in warm environments the old tolex would shrink, and coupled with the crap glue caused the problems people encountered. The glue changed but the tolex didn’t so there were still “smaller” issues as seen with @funkle and @mcnach. They’ve now changed the glue again, and also the tolex, so as to mitigate the shrinking issues and the glue failures. This new tolex is easier to work apparently and therefore if any peeling occurs with this then it will be significantly easier to re-stick. Of course ideally no peeling should occur at all. I’ll keep an eye on my One10 cabs because one has old tolex and second iteration glue and one has new tolex and third iteration glue... 10/10. Go to the top of the class! Detention over 😂 1 Quote
Merton Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Thanks sir! I promise I won’t be naughty again sir. Please don’t tell my parents. 🤓 Quote
Al Krow Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Merton said: Thanks sir! I promise I won’t be naughty again sir. Please don’t tell my parents. 🤓 It's your wife finding out that you should be more concerned about. £20 sales price?? Ok so you're then £20 up. But does that include P&P? And she'll be entitled to 50% of everything else you have including your basses amps and cabs...£20 for all that?! Now that is a bargain! 🤣 1 Quote
Merton Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Well damn, I hadn’t thought of that 🤣 For full disclosure she was totally aware of my ridiculous thread and thought it was all quite funny 🙂 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Merton said: Well damn, I hadn’t thought of that 🤣 For full disclosure she was totally aware of my ridiculous thread and thought it was all quite funny 🙂 Not everyone did...😐 Quote
Merton Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 Just now, AndyTravis said: Not everyone did...😐 I know. It got a bit silly didn’t it 😕 Quote
Al Krow Posted July 13, 2019 Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Merton said: Well damn, I hadn’t thought of that 🤣 For full disclosure she was totally aware of my ridiculous thread and thought it was all quite funny 🙂 It was indeed very funny. Is she still letting you get a Glock amp?! If not wait can I put a slightly wicked thought into your head? Wait until the Bergantino B|Amp hp (with the new 600W 8ohm power module) is out next year (just a rumour I'm starting, I know!**). I think it's gonna be awesome... ** although when I had a little bit of banter with Jim Bergantino over on TB, he didn't deny it! Edited July 13, 2019 by Al Krow Quote
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