Don't Stop Believin + Black Velvet. What bass pedals??

[ajh8545]

Anybody know recommend pedals and settings to get the bass sounds used on Don't Stop Believin by Journey and Black Velvet by Alanna Myles?

 

[fretmeister]

Black Velvet is just the back pickup on a jazz.

Bass and mids boosted, treble turned down a bit.

 

I think the original was recorded on a fretless, but a fretted is close enough.

Edited July 8, 2019 by fretmeister

[chris_b]

21 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

Black Velvet is just the back pickup on a jazz.

Bass and mids boosted, treble turned down a bit.

I think the original was recorded on a fretless, but a fretted is close enough.

Black Velvet was recorded on a Yamaha DX7  an Akai S900 Sampler.

I used to play those in several cover bands without pedals.

 

Edit for correction.

Edited July 8, 2019 by chris_b

[fretmeister]

Really? It sounds like a fretless to me!

[fretmeister]

Make sure you play it in E Flat though.

 

If your guitarist wants it in E - sack him and get a better player.

[BigRedX]

Black Velvet is definitely synth. Very well programmed for both the sound and the "performance" but if you know what to listen for it is very obviously synth.

Don't Stop Believing might have some real bass guitar in there but if there is it's as a backing for the piano and synth sounds that are at the forefront of the bass line.

[chris_b]

After a little searching I've found a Talkbass post from the guy who knows. . . .

I can confirm 100% that the bass on Black Velvet is a sample of a fretless bass. It was played by the producer Dave Tyson. I believe it was an Akai S900 Sampler. How can I be sure? I played the bass guitar on the record, appeared in several videos and toured with Alannah in the late 80's. BTW the bass referred to in the Black Velvet video is a foam green Warwick -- that bass was not used in the recording. On stage I used a hip shot on the E string to deal with Eb issue.
 

[redbandit599]

Don't Stop Believing  - just stick some chorus in  to bring out a bit of warble in those higher little fills.

Phaser of Flanger would probably do the trick too with a bit of fettling.

[ajh8545]

Thanks guys - I don't feel too bad about trying to get near to the sounds now !  It sounded like a 5 string to me but I'm new at these effects.

[paul_5]

My ears are telling me that ‘Don’t stop believing’ is fretless with a touch of overdrive.