Dood Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Anyone know off hand what mics are used and placement for SH’s EV loaded Bass Cabinets? Its proving difficult to find out! The rest of the signal chain only took 2 minutes to find out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Chances are whatever mics are employed are chosen by the sound company hired for the gig. Considering that his EV loaded cabs are incapable of going really low there's no need for anything with extended low frequency range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted July 29, 2019 Author Share Posted July 29, 2019 I read an interview with Steve and he did mention that the EV’s didn’t do deep lows, true. That was certainly my understanding of the EVM12L too. I’d be interested to find out what the likes of Kevin Shirley et al chose to capture the tone. There are certain classic combinations I suppose and I’ll certainly just experiment here in my virtual world for fun, but ultimately just curious as I understand the variables involved with capturing a sound in a recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJ Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 In my experience, placement of the mic can have as much of an effect on the result as mic choice. If I’m recording either my own or someone else’s bass cab, I like one mic close to the cone but off-axis and one about a metre away, and a straight DI signal too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 It’s rock and roll. Stick a 58 in front of it (with dented grille - this is really important) and be done with you! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, EBS_freak said: It’s rock and roll. Stick a 58 in front of it (with dented grille - this is really important) and be done with you! SM57 would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, BreadBin said: SM57 would be better. Meh. You don't use instrument mics on instruments if you are rock n roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 The SM57 and 58 use the same cartridge, only the grille is different. https://www.shure.com/en-GB/support/find-an-answer/sm57-vs-sm58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) - Edited March 3, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said: The SM57 and 58 use the same cartridge, only the grille is different. https://www.shure.com/en-GB/support/find-an-answer/sm57-vs-sm58 The 57 is better suited for cabinet miking. As stated in that article! Edited August 2, 2019 by BreadBin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I wouldn't mic so close to the cab in a live situation that it would make any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzbass Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 03/08/2019 at 01:38, Bill Fitzmaurice said: The SM57 and 58 use the same cartridge, only the grille is different. https://www.shure.com/en-GB/support/find-an-answer/sm57-vs-sm58 the cardiod pattern is different too iirc iinm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 02/08/2019 at 13:57, EBS_freak said: It’s rock and roll. Stick a 58 in front of it (with dented grille - this is really important) and be done with you! Presume you'd also take said unsuitable mic and hang it down vertically in front of the cab, so that you're micing off access and getting an even nastier sound? Shudder. There's a reason why proper engineers use a range of mics and deploy them in certain ways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Alec said: Presume you'd also take said unsuitable mic and hang it down vertically in front of the cab, so that you're micing off access and getting an even nastier sound? Shudder. There's a reason why proper engineers use a range of mics and deploy them in certain ways... Its cool Alec, EBS is just joshing, he's a very capable engineer - but, to continue the banter, yeah, I've seen said micing practices. Only last year i played a massive outdoor gig and the ehem "professional" PA company turned down the option of a direct DI and no backline in preference of micing a 12" bass cone with a 57... but, there was so much distance between the microphone and cabinet i had plenty of space to place my bass, on stand, in between!!! Needless to say, the bass sounded rubbish. I'd have sent them a flat cab sim signal as well if they wanted, but the engineer got scared. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 02/08/2019 at 16:33, EBS_freak said: Meh. You don't use instrument mics on instruments if you are rock n roll. Haha I would not use a SM58 for vocals. It may be a standard but the standard was quite low when they were designed, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 12/08/2019 at 18:07, bazzbass said: the cardiod pattern is different too iirc iinm I might very well be but I believe anything around the capsule will affect the axial response. I have recently been using a Sontronics SOLO. And it is great for cab mic’ing and vocals. g and vocals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Chienmortbb said: Haha I would not use a SM58 for vocals. It may be a standard but the standard was quite low when they were designed, My hero. At last somebody else is in agreement with me! The only thing going for the 58 is the fact that every engineer worth their salt knows how to eq out their deficiencies. I’d rather take a 935 over a 58 if we are going bog standard dynamics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 19/08/2019 at 09:14, EBS_freak said: My hero. At last somebody else is in agreement with me! The only thing going for the 58 is the fact that every engineer worth their salt knows how to eq out their deficiencies. I’d rather take a 935 over a 58 if we are going bog standard dynamics. I agree entirely the Sennheiser range as a whole are good the and 935 in particular, but the Sontronics SOLO is now my go to Mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I concur - my mate introduced me to the Sontronics - I haven't bought any but he absolutely swears by them... and having heard him live, it's pretty decent! Very decent. Another D5-esque bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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