Setup issues w/my new Sire M2

[Christine]

I suppose it could be a peculiarity of the string where it vibrated more but the tighter they are the less movement it can make and the less chance you have of fret buzz

[wishface]

  On 12/08/2019 at 07:52, Christine said:

I suppose it could be a peculiarity of the string where it vibrated more but the tighter they are the less movement it can make and the less chance you have of fret buzz

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Who knows (ie, not me). That's just how it feels. I don't really understand how strings work enough to explain these things. I just pluck them

[wishface]

Also: this bass has two stringing options, back of the bridge or through the body from under the bass. Is one better than the others?

[gary mac]

  On 12/08/2019 at 08:19, wishface said:

Also: this bass has two stringing options, back of the bridge or through the body from under the bass. Is one better than the others?

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On the basses that I've had with that option, I've not been able to detect any difference. Others will tell you that the sustain/resonance or whatever, is vastly improved by stringing through the body.

[paul_c2]

  On 12/08/2019 at 07:52, Christine said:

I suppose it could be a peculiarity of the string where it vibrated more but the tighter they are the less movement it can make and the less chance you have of fret buzz

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I suspect the strings are heavier gauge, so have more tension, so have pulled the neck more curved, raising the action to above where the buzz occurred previously.

[HowieBass]

Regarding re-stringing... I normally go through a setup routine to check if a change of string has affected the relief and intonation and that's even when it's the same gauge. As I said earlier, buzzing high up is usually due to too much relief. Clearly whenever you fret a string you're eliminating any problems with the nut. If you've reduced fret buzz with the old strings that you've now put on then I suspect they're of lower tension (than the original set) so the neck now has less relief. 

Edited August 12, 2019 by HowieBass
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[wishface]

I think I mentioned before the socket for the lead. It comes loose during play. Why might this be happening? I have to tighten it back up after unplugging. This doesn't seem healthy. 

[Christine]

Have you tightened it with a spanner?

[wishface]

  On 12/08/2019 at 19:39, Christine said:

Have you tightened it with a spanner?

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Just used my fingers. Because of how the nut sits in the socket there's very little room to fit a spanner. I'll have to fetch some pliers i think. 

[DoubleOhStephan]

Get yourself a couple of pairs of long nose pliers, whip the back cover off, hold the jack nut in place inside the guitar whilst tightening the outer nut. 

[wishface]

  On 12/08/2019 at 19:54, DoubleOhStephan said:

Get yourself a couple of pairs of long nose pliers, whip the back cover off, hold the jack nut in place inside the guitar whilst tightening the outer nut. 

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Thanks, but that seems like a job for someone more expert than I

[paul_c2]

Personally I think I did mine with a socket set. Very easy (with the right tool).

[timhiggins]

  On 12/08/2019 at 10:35, HowieBass said:

Regarding re-stringing... I normally go through a setup routine to check if a change of string has affected the relief and intonation and that's even when it's the same gauge. As I said earlier, buzzing high up is usually due to too much relief. Clearly whenever you fret a string you're eliminating any problems with the nut. If you've reduced fret buzz with the old strings that you've now put on then I suspect they're of lower tension (than the original set) so the neck now has less relief. 

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I would agree with this regarding strings 

an M2 probably comes with 45 to 105 as they are Marcus's favoured gage

the heavy gage would definitely create more relief ,and the newer strings would also pickup the buzzing more when amplified.  

[wishface]

I tightened the socket as best I could. The nut is very thin and difficult to get purchase on. I don't really like opening up the electrics, understandably I think