artisan Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just modded the electronics in my Elite Jazz bass & proper loving it now. I've never been a fan of active basses & always play this bass in passive mode which made me list it for sale a short while ago.But as I love the bass I decided to rip out the active circuit & fit one of Kiogon's stack knob kits with added series/parallel switch. It's now my perfect Jazz bass & to me looks so much better without the cluttered active controls. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pea Turgh Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Nice! Not on quite the same level of cool as this one, but I put one of @KiOgon‘s looms in place of my Hohner Jack’s terrible active circuit - sounds like a new bass! Which reminds me , I need to get another loom for my JV... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopthebass Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I have an Elite 5 and agree that passive sounds nicer. I have been thinking about modding it. Who is Kiogon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 A forum member who makes solderless wiring looms that are dead easy to fit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misowaki Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 So I have an Elite P and I only ever use the active switch as a kill switch but passive mode sounds pretty muddy to me. Am thinking about changing everything out but did you find the same pups with the preamp removed sounded different to passive mode through the pre? Am wondering if I can get around it all without spending loads by just going around the pre and using the same pups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopthebass Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Hey Misowaki, I'm not sure what you mean by using the active switch as a kill switch. Active mode on my Jazz is louder than passive mode. I guess the only way it would kill the sound is if the batteries are dead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misowaki Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chopthebass said: Hey Misowaki, I'm not sure what you mean by using the active switch as a kill switch. Ah, I meant by removing the preamp batteries so it kills the sound! =D Perhaps mute switch would have been a better way of phrasing it... But any idea on the pup sound with preamp removed? Will it sound different? When the batteries go in this, it starts squealing and popping and that's in passive mode! I figured if it affects it in passive, perhaps the preamp is also muddying it up some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I had noiseless n3 in the delux swaped them out for Lollar jazz ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoBass Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 19/09/2019 at 10:20, artisan said: After That’s more like it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 20 hours ago, Misowaki said: So I have an Elite P and I only ever use the active switch as a kill switch but passive mode sounds pretty muddy to me. Am thinking about changing everything out but did you find the same pups with the preamp removed sounded different to passive mode through the pre? Am wondering if I can get around it all without spending loads by just going around the pre and using the same pups. Hi it definitely sounds a lot clearer with the new electronics installed & it's much more intuitive to find a sound I like. I like the sound of the N4 noiseless pickups. I recommend the series/parallel switch too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misowaki Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Nice one, then that's what I'll look to do. New passive controls, same pups, see how we go! Only thing is the plugs... do Kiogon's solderless looms use the same plugs do you know? I've got a soldered one on another bass and don't fancy cutting the plugs off the pup wires should it not work for me for whatever reason =S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Misowaki said: Nice one, then that's what I'll look to do. New passive controls, same pups, see how we go! Only thing is the plugs... do Kiogon's solderless looms use the same plugs do you know? I've got a soldered one on another bass and don't fancy cutting the plugs off the pup wires should it not work for me for whatever reason =S No you will have to cut the wires unfortunately,I was a little daunted about doing it at first but I'm so glad I did. There is no way I'd ever put the active system back into it now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 20/09/2019 at 21:34, Pea Turgh said: A forum member who makes solderless wiring looms that are dead easy to fit! Yes, they are easy to fit - being solderless pre-assembled units. But Kiogon also uses top quality components, and he's a helpful sort too - always willing to answer questions, even if he's not actually selling you anything To the OP. I fitted one of his stack control wiring units to my Roadworn Jazz a little while back, and it's great - I like the added flexibility it gives over standard V V T Nice looking Jazz you have there BTW. Gotta love Block & bound necks, especially on a Jazz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I have one of those looms in my Stringray 5!! Man, the hate I got on the EBMM forum... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Marc S said: Yes, they are easy to fit - being solderless pre-assembled units. But Kiogon also uses top quality components, and he's a helpful sort too - always willing to answer questions, even if he's not actually selling you anything To the OP. I fitted one of his stack control wiring units to my Roadworn Jazz a little while back, and it's great - I like the added flexibility it gives over standard V V T Nice looking Jazz you have there BTW. Gotta love Block & bound necks, especially on a Jazz Thanks Marc 👍I love blocks too. It is a fantastic bass especially now with the crappy active stuff removed. I find the series/parallel switch very useful too when I feel the need for a P bass moment but can't be bothered to switch basses 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathy Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Thanks for posting. This looks like it could be an option for my deluxe precision. Although this does bring with it the added complication of getting a customised pickguard. Any recommendations? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Heathy said: Thanks for posting. This looks like it could be an option for my deluxe precision. Although this does bring with it the added complication of getting a customised pickguard. Any recommendations? Kiogon could make you a suitable loom to fill all of the holes,maybe VVTT ? I would think,drop him a line he is extremely helpful. Edited October 18, 2019 by artisan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misowaki Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Heathy said: Thanks for posting. This looks like it could be an option for my deluxe precision. Although this does bring with it the added complication of getting a customised pickguard. Any recommendations? I'm doing similarly with my Elite and the only options I found for pickguard are £50+ or make my own (which I am going to do). You don't necessarily have to but you'll have to remove the whole board and likely have extra holes. If you wanted to buy one I think WD Music have some on their site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misowaki Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) @Heathy Here's one but mega bucks https://www.wdmusic.co.uk/pickguards-c62/fender-basses-c111/precision-bass-american-deluxe-c158/wd-music-american-deluxe-p-bass-single-ply-070-tortoise-shell-p2365 Non-tort is cheaper but still £50+ I had a blank arrive today for £18. By the time I've taken a Dremel to it it would have cost me three times that in labour but whatyougonnado 🤷♂️ Edited October 18, 2019 by Misowaki 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djc63 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 That looks great. I too dislike the active sound of my jazz elite. It's not bad in passive though. Was going to fit a John East pre but maybe this would be a better option. I wouldn't have even thought of doing this. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I have some WD Tort on a P and it's very very good, best tort I've seen, IMO worth the extra 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artisan Posted October 22, 2019 Author Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) It would seem that I am in the process of trading this lovely bass for something else like you do 😁 Edited October 24, 2019 by artisan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zelak999 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 On 19/09/2019 at 10:19, artisan said: Just modded the electronics in my Elite Jazz bass & proper loving it now. I've never been a fan of active basses & always play this bass in passive mode which made me list it for sale a short while ago.But as I love the bass I decided to rip out the active circuit & fit one of Kiogon's stack knob kits with added series/parallel switch. It's now my perfect Jazz bass & to me looks so much better without the cluttered active controls. I'm loving the look of this. Do you know if they do a similar thing for a passive Fender PJ bass? I'd love seperate tone knobs for the P pick up and Jazz pick up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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