Friskydingo Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I'm getting a small pedalboard along the lines of a pedal train nano or palmer pedalbay 50, whatever has the most clearance. I need another power supply as my current one is too tall to put underneath and is in use for my other board. Anyone have expertise of what will fit underneath? Only parameters, it has to have 4+ outputs, preferably isolated but not necessary and can fit underneath the board, thanks. And if it matters I'll be powering low powered pedals, tc electronic polytune, orange kongpressor, mooer chorus and Carl martin dc drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 When i got my nano+ I drilled out the feet and replaced them with 4 jacknuts and taller rubber feet. It means I can get my T-Rex Chamelon underneath, no problem. It's a simple mod that costs pence and takes 30 minutes tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Feet: https://www.essentracomponents.com/en-gb/p/screw-on-bumper-rubber-feet-screw-on-bumper-feet/066025011407 Jacknuts: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009L3JQV6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 M5 Allen bolts (nicer than the screws the jacknuts come with): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009YGIYYA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Edited September 24, 2019 by Twigman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I have a Cioks Adam under my (unmodified) Nano. I'd also be considering a Truetone CS6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 There are a few made for the job that fit perfectly under a Nano: Cioks DC5 / DC7 Truetone CS6 Strymon Ojai R30 Or just get a simple 9V daisy chain like a One-Spot. Sometimes you might find a pedal that introduces noise onto the chain, necessitating a power supply with isolated outputs, but 9 times out of 10 you'll be fine without! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskydingo Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: There are a few made for the job that fit perfectly under a Nano: Cioks DC5 / DC7 Truetone CS6 Strymon Ojai R30 Or just get a simple 9V daisy chain like a One-Spot. Sometimes you might find a pedal that introduces noise onto the chain, necessitating a power supply with isolated outputs, but 9 times out of 10 you'll be fine without! I was thinking about that and just hope for no noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskydingo Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 I've seen some talk about vitoos iso4. Anyone had experience? It seems too good for that price being isolated as well. Reviews by users in UK say its quiet and reliable. Seems cheap enough to take a punt at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cLepto-bass Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Very happy Truetone CS6 user here. Highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Friskydingo said: I was thinking about that and just hope for no noise I ran a 9V daisy chain with several pedals for years with no issues. When I started doing a lot of practice with headphones, I noticed a lot of noise in my chain, so got a Cioks DC5. It did not solve my noise issues, that turned out to be my patch cables! Nowadays I have my pedals mostly sprawled over the floor of my music room with a 9V daisy chain and don't notice any noise issues with 7 pedals in the chain. Zoom/EHX digital pedals (TC and Mooer seem to be fine!) and some pedals with internal 9V-18V charge pumps seem to be the main culprit for noise in my experience and will require a separate power supply or just one with isolated outputs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskydingo Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 I have a spare wallwart with 7 inputs so will try that at next practice. My big board has a walrus audio aetos, which is great 8+ pedals but something simpler is all I need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudpup Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 i just picked up one of these from DV247 - its actually only £33 on their instore system. Seems pretty quiet and it has a proper kettle lead rather than an adapter too. https://www.dv247.com/en_GB/GBP/Fame-DC-Junior/art-GIT0040359-000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I've got a Vitoos Iso8 and it's great (and genuinely fully isolated). I've bought a Vitoos PS1 off the back of that, which I haven't yet pressed into service. If you have 12V or 18V requirements, both will do those but the Iso8 is more flexible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskydingo Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 8 hours ago, tauzero said: I've got a Vitoos Iso8 and it's great (and genuinely fully isolated). I've bought a Vitoos PS1 off the back of that, which I haven't yet pressed into service. If you have 12V or 18V requirements, both will do those but the Iso8 is more flexible. I've seen test online where the first 2 inputs with changeable voltage are isolated and the other 6 aren't. They're just daisy chain. So only 3 are isolated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingforaday Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I use the Harley Benton power plant junior and really rate it... However, I modified my board similar to @Twigman and I can’t remember if that was before or after this power supply... either way as mentioned, it’s a very simple mod that opens up a lot more possibilities for what can go underneath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Friskydingo said: I've seen test online where the first 2 inputs with changeable voltage are isolated and the other 6 aren't. They're just daisy chain. So only 3 are isolated Which one? I checked the Iso8 with a multimeter which is why I say it has genuinely isolated outputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskydingo Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=2ahUKEwjvqrm1kPHkAhUzonEKHeleDrsQxa8BMAB6BAgAEAI&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov Or search guitarpusher is his channel or leothemetal. They do comprehensive checks and concur 6 outputs are daisy chain and don't have a short circuit safety which Harley Benton does. They're not the most charismatic people but informative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskydingo Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 Ok, so I looked over the videos and details of the power supplies again and the Harley Benton iso 2 pro has 8 isolated outputs separate from each other, while the Vitoos, sometimes known as Fame and other budget brands, are not all isolated. 6 outputs are daisy chained. So I’ll get the iso 2 and some longer screws so it fits under the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Link doesn't work in Chrome or Firefox. Vitoos Iso8 is fully isolated, but don't believe me if you don't want to. As it's identical to the Harley Benton, it seems quite likely I'm right. Not sure about the PS1, there seems something rather odd about that when I go over the outputs in the same way so I'll reserve judgement on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Oh, and here's guitarpusher saying exactly what I said: https://www.facebook.com/guitarpusher/posts/its-now-here-vitoos-iso8-isolator-power-supplyp3500why-isolated-psu-to-reduceeli/1432526826862145/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskydingo Posted September 28, 2019 Author Share Posted September 28, 2019 I must apologise, I was looking at the vitoos dc8 not iso8, you are right. So I’ll look at getting one of those for £45 from eBay or amazon, unless there’s a better seller. As long as it comes with all the necessary cables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliveT Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I know you want isolated but I've had no issue with daisy chain on my nano pedalboard setup, but the key is not getting the cheap PSU's. The BOSS PSA 230 with a good quality daisy chain, I use the BOSS one, works fine for me and the PA doesn't complain about noise. I also power a Polytune and then daisy chain from there, not sure if that makes a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Some effects are really fussy about isolated power supplies - I have a Zoom B3n and that doesn't like unisolated supplies at all. I'm going to swap the Vitoos PS1 into that pedalboard at some point in the near future (replacing the Vitoos Iso8 that's in there now) to find out whether it is or isn't properly isolated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskydingo Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, tauzero said: Some effects are really fussy about isolated power supplies - I have a Zoom B3n and that doesn't like unisolated supplies at all. I'm going to swap the Vitoos PS1 into that pedalboard at some point in the near future (replacing the Vitoos Iso8 that's in there now) to find out whether it is or isn't properly isolated. Keep me updated as I'm selling my power supply to buy a Vitoos Iso8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 A quick test showed the PS1 had insufficient oomph to power a Zoom B3n, so results are inconclusive. It will power a B3, so I'll experiment a bit more later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friskydingo Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, tauzero said: A quick test showed the PS1 had insufficient oomph to power a Zoom B3n, so results are inconclusive. It will power a B3, so I'll experiment a bit more later. Could the Vitoos Iso8 power all 8 pedals comfortably? No glitching, cutting out or overloading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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