wateroftyne Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hmm. They have a full-page advert in this month's Bass Player mag which doesn't really give much away. [url="http://www.wharfedale.com/"]There's something on their website[/url], but it gives nothing away either. I wonder what they're going to come up with...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Who's Steve Grindrod (fnarr sounds a bit rude). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) Well having worked for their Pro division for a number of years, there was always talk of introducing low cost instrument cabs and amps.... perhaps this is it.... Expect to see some half decent product at decent prices!! Edited January 4, 2009 by crez5150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumnote Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 (edited) [quote name='warwickhunt' post='369804' date='Jan 4 2009, 11:44 AM']Who's Steve Grindrod (fnarr sounds a bit rude).[/quote] Ive heard that name before, i think he was a technical bod at marshall From another forum It was introduced into the Marshall Club & Country amp range in the late 70s, I think. The designer was Steve Grindrod. Steve, along with many others, believes that when we hear nice power amp distortion, most of it is the PI distorting and interacting with the output tranny, speaker(s) and feedback network, not the power tubes. AFAIK Marshall have not used it in any other amps - strange. Steve Grindrod is now the main man at Vox and is responsible for the Vox Valvetronix and Tonelab series, which essentially are digital modellers with a real, distorting PI in the power amp or output stage. Steve is also responsible for all the recent Vox valve amps. Edited January 4, 2009 by bumnote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 [quote name='bumnote' post='369812' date='Jan 4 2009, 11:51 AM']Ive heard that name before, i think he was a technical bod at marshall From another forum It was introduced into the Marshall Club & Country amp range in the late 70s, I think. The designer was Steve Grindrod. Steve, along with many others, believes that when we hear nice power amp distortion, most of it is the PI distorting and interacting with the output tranny, speaker(s) and feedback network, not the power tubes. AFAIK Marshall have not used it in any other amps - strange. Steve Grindrod is now the main man at Vox and is responsible for the Vox Valvetronix and Tonelab series, which essentially are digital modellers with a real, distorting PI in the power amp or output stage. Steve is also responsible for all the recent Vox valve amps.[/quote] I cannot say too much but there is a tie up between Vox and Wharfedale...... Wharfedale is part of a much larger organization who are one of the largest wholly owned musical electronics manufactures in China..... also I remember there being talks once of the purchase of Marshall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosebass Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 It does indeed look like they are branching out into the Guitar / Bass / PA sectors. Lets hope they use some of Castle Acoustics speaker expertise in the cabinet department. My main Hi-Fi speakers are a set of Castles from the early 90's that are still awesome and bass sound rather good through them (if you like a compressed tight sound) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumnote Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 [quote name='crez5150' post='369821' date='Jan 4 2009, 12:01 PM']I cannot say too much but there is a tie up between Vox and Wharfedale...... Wharfedale is part of a much larger organization who are one of the largest wholly owned musical electronics manufactures in China..... also I remember there being talks once of the purchase of Marshall...[/quote] If you google and look in the plexi palace he says that vox amps are made in the corner of the wharfdale factory in china. There is a new ac 30 made in china in the states for$999 It would therefore not be unreasonable to see a wharfdale brand. Could the same place be making the current chinese marshalls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 [quote name='bumnote' post='369827' date='Jan 4 2009, 12:10 PM']If you google and look in the plexi palace he says that vox amps are made in the corner of the wharfdale factory in china. There is a new ac 30 made in china in the states for$999 It would therefore not be unreasonable to see a wharfdale brand. Could the same place be making the current chinese marshalls?[/quote] Ahem...... I couldn't say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcro Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='369799' date='Jan 4 2009, 11:37 AM']Hmm. They have a full-page advert in this month's Bass Player mag which doesn't really give much away. [url="http://www.wharfedale.com/"]There's something on their website[/url], but it gives nothing away either. I wonder what they're going to come up with...?[/quote] It does indeed look like Prosebass is right. Just another expansion into a new area. Oh God, it's so sad. All those great British Companies now reduced to just a brand within a conglomerate and all with interchageable parts. See also Harman International and Harvard Electronics. Just holders of Brand names. I must go and cry into my beer. Balcro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 'Tis the way of the world I'm afraid!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 I didn't know Wharfedale had been swallowed up. How sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythSte Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 *Starts Frantically writing to Mission asking if theres any hope of bass cabs!* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='369881' date='Jan 4 2009, 01:02 PM']I didn't know Wharfedale had been swallowed up. How sad.[/quote] I Wouldn't say swallowed up...... but they are part of the IAG group of companies that own brands such as Mission, Quad, Tag, Castle, Audiolab as well as having three lighting brands and their own yacht design company..... You should see their manufacturing plant....... Outsanding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 [quote name='crez5150' post='369807' date='Jan 4 2009, 11:47 AM']Well having worked for their Pro division for a number of years, there was always talk of introducing low cost instrument cabs and amps.... perhaps this is it.... Expect to see some half decent product at decent prices!![/quote] Agreed. Did you know Steve Hewlett during your time there, Crez? Anyway, he was the head designer at Fane for many years before (eventually) becoming technical director for IAG. Lovely fellow. He is a power speaker man (from the south west in fact) - so it is hardly surprising that IAG is now producing sound reinforcement products. I'm looking forward to seeing what they have to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 [quote name='stevie' post='370337' date='Jan 4 2009, 08:52 PM']Agreed. Did you know Steve Hewlett during your time there, Crez? Anyway, he was the head designer at Fane for many years before (eventually) becoming technical director for IAG. Lovely fellow. He is a power speaker man (from the south west in fact) - so it is hardly surprising that IAG is now producing sound reinforcement products. I'm looking forward to seeing what they have to offer.[/quote] Yes Matey I know Steve... Lives out in China most of the time now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeBrownBass Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Well i spoke to my uncle today who is a manager of a large company that distribute wharfedale products. All he told me is that other than all the stuff discussed in here, prices should be around 30% less than an equivalent Marshall product. Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Seems the product listing is up.... interesting though look far to far-eastern looking I think. They've also gone back to using the original Logo on these - [url="http://www.amps.wharfedale.com/Products/Series/tabid/82/PID/2/Default.aspx"]Whafedale[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythSte Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 they look foul, thats such a shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Funk Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 [quote name='MythSte' post='383126' date='Jan 17 2009, 12:17 PM']they look foul, thats such a shame [/quote] Agree 100%. The only part od the range that looks ok are the guitar practice amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumnote Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 [quote name='MythSte' post='383126' date='Jan 17 2009, 12:17 PM']they look foul, thats such a shame [/quote] What a disapointment. On the other hand I suppose they have got to try to make them look different, They will want to estsblish a 'brand' and it might take a while to get used to it.. Personally [ducks head] I think Mark Bass looks awfull, although Im getting a bit more used to it, but they seem to be doing ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 OMG they're wretched! Not only are they fugly - which is a matter of taste, but they also look as cheap as tat - which is unforgiveable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escholl Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I like it, except for the "wharfdale" badge bit, that doesn't look quite right. It's a bit different, yea, but then again my amp is also quite a bit different looking, so i suppose it's just what i go for. Seems to have some good features built into it as well, interesting to see what the price will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeBrownBass Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 what happened to this lovely looking cab?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 [quote name='bumnote' post='383151' date='Jan 17 2009, 12:34 PM']What a disapointment. On the other hand I suppose they have got to try to make them look different, They will want to estsblish a 'brand' and it might take a while to get used to it.. Personally [ducks head] I think Mark Bass looks awfull, although Im getting a bit more used to it, but they seem to be doing ok.[/quote] I think the Wharfedale brand is very firmly established here in England.... having been around for over 70 years!! What will happen is you will start to see these products popping up all over the place. If the quality of them is as good as their pro-audio products then they will be extremely good value for money and decently built. Having been at the main factory in China on several occasions I can honestly say the QC would be impeccable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 [quote name='crez5150' post='383193' date='Jan 17 2009, 01:04 PM']I think the Wharfedale brand is very firmly established here in England.... having been around for over 70 years!![/quote] It is, but they're not established in the bass amplification market so they have to build a reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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