Not a bass but when will we see it on one?

[phsycoandy]

Gibson DarkFire, just whatch them tuners go, cool!

[url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B4HJLCm4oGw"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B4HJLCm4oGw[/url]

[Buzz]

Hmm, that's rather quick.

Flawed as by what I could tell the tuners were quite happy to tune down to pitch, common knowledge is that you always tune UP to pitch to get the tension right and to help ensure a stable tuning, although that could be a mute point if it constantly checks that the guitar is in tune as just by playing it would end up tuning up a little bit.

[Dubs]

That's the first time I've seen one of those in action - it's very cool

[yorick]

never i hope........................

[Kev]

i do like the idea, from what iv seen that knob is very, very fiddly, but other than that (pending it works of course) i can see it being a great way of changing tuning fast mid set

Edited January 6, 2009 by BassManKev

[josh3184]

wouldn't the motors need to be stronger due to thew higher tension in bass strings?
I saw this guitar when someone pointed it out on another forum I'm on and it sparked this atrocious debate about how it would harm beginnners as it takes away the difficulty of tuning a guitar.....

Hmmm....

Right....

Despite the fact that this tech currently costs in the hundreds of pounds and as such cannot be afforded by a learner... Sigh.

[Kev]

[quote name='josh3184' post='372594' date='Jan 6 2009, 11:24 PM']it would harm beginnners as it takes away the difficulty of tuning a guitar.....[/quote]

[Hamster]

How can we manage without one? Can you sue them if it breaks your strings?

[Buzz]

I can't imaging it's easy on the batteries either.

[EBS_freak]

Thats no good. That takes away the justification of extra basses for different tunings. Can't be harming GAS can we now?

[chris_b]

Might be a great idea if it translates into a reliable and cheap product. Who's got a problem with being in tune?

[OldGit]

[quote name='phsycoandy' post='372543' date='Jan 6 2009, 10:40 PM']Gibson DarkFire, just whatch them tuners go, cool!

[url="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B4HJLCm4oGw"]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B4HJLCm4oGw[/url][/quote]


Maybe Bernie could add them to the extras on the GB basses alongside the drum machine

[Golchen]

I think that it's a really interesting innovation, but it's not something that I am interested in owning personally. Likewise with Fenders VG strat.

[cytania]

Part of the reason Gibson are running with this one (apart from the obvious novelty) is their guitars are notorious for going out of tune. Some say that's down to the headstock angle but I think part of the blame is their heavy use of vintage tuner designs.

Edited January 7, 2009 by cytania

[waynepunkdude]

Then what would be the point of my flashy rack tuner?

I think I posted a thread on these a few months back, I can imagine it will make the guitar stupidly expensive even for a Gibson.

[RayFW]

They can make a self tuning guitar but they can't make a Les Paul whose headstock doesn't break if you so much as sneeze on it.

[Dr.Dave]

I'm a dinosaur who loves his rack tuner and likes to use his hands in as many ways possible to make his instrument sound nice. I never have tuning problems because I string properly and stretch them properly. I don't like silly weird effects. I'm open to new ideas but I know how to recognise a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

So - when do you think I'll be buying anything like this??

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[Rich]

[quote name='OldGit' post='372716' date='Jan 7 2009, 08:49 AM']Maybe Bernie could add them to the extras on the GB basses alongside the drum machine [/quote]
Ah, but only if it doesn't interfere with the tea & coffee making facility.

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='OldGit' post='372716' date='Jan 7 2009, 08:49 AM']Maybe Bernie could add them to the extras on the GB basses alongside the drum machine [/quote]

It's a metronome FFS. A metronome...

Edited January 7, 2009 by EBS_freak

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='Rich' post='372831' date='Jan 7 2009, 10:43 AM']Ah, but only if it doesn't interfere with the tea & coffee making facility.[/quote]

It's hot chocolate FFS. Hot chocolate.

[josh3184]

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='372890' date='Jan 7 2009, 11:28 AM']It's hot chocolate FFS. Hot chocolate.[/quote]

[EBS_freak]

I don't think BG would be up for that anyway. Weight distribution and balance is too important to him... putting all that weight at the headstock would play havoc with the balance.

How many batteries does this tuning thing take anyway?

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='cytania' post='372761' date='Jan 7 2009, 09:31 AM']Part of the reason Gibson are running with this one (apart from the obvious novelty) is their guitars are notorious for going out of tune. Some say that's down to the headstock angle but I think part of the blame is their heavy use of vintage tuner designs.[/quote]



One of the biggest reasons that Gibbos have a problem staying in tune is the angle that is introduced between the nut and the tuning post. The friction that is introduced means that the string can't move freely through the nut whilst being tuned. When being played, the string then slips slighty making the instrument out of tune. To help this problem, apply a liberal amount of graphite from a pencil to the nut slots to help lubricate and aid the movement of the string in the nut slot... or buy an instrument with a decently designed head.

The worst guitar ever created for this problem? Take a ganders at this

[Happy Jack]

There's some fin wrong with that design.

[Tait]

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='372940' date='Jan 7 2009, 12:07 PM']There's some fin wrong with that design.[/quote]

terrible.

back to the self tuning thingies, i think theyd be an excellent idea if they didnt cost a stupid amount of money. theyre not worth the amount they cost, not by a long way. neither are gibsons for that matter.