Cuzzie Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: This is getting silly now. I'm not a SH fan but I think I need this pedal. The Tech21 ‘Signature’ pedals are basically a box to achieve that person’s sound, but each of them do so much more. Incredibly well made, flexible and great sounding machines 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) Tim is like the later day Ed Friedland . Makes everything he plays sound like you must have it . Edited October 24, 2019 by dave_bass5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinebass Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 It does sound good, doesn't it?!! Tech21 have now hit their formula. Flyrigs. Or smaller pedals in cut down chassis. They are going to crank the handle for some time on this. Might be a great thing, might not. Depends if the quality of products keep up. These models are certainly addressing the need for portability and ludicrous tones. In many ways, they're inspired. I just wished they'd put the tone controls left to right rather than right to left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Wolverinebass said: It does sound good, doesn't it?!! Tech21 have now hit their formula. Flyrigs. Or smaller pedals in cut down chassis. They are going to crank the handle for some time on this. Might be a great thing, might not. Depends if the quality of products keep up. These models are certainly addressing the need for portability and ludicrous tones. In many ways, they're inspired. I just wished they'd put the tone controls left to right rather than right to left. If only they did a maxi fly rig with Geddy, dUg and SH1 all in the same box, maybe throw the Ripper in there for fun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) For me they’d be the ultimate fly-rigs if they had the option to run on batteries. Having to take a power supply and a converter plug (and then hope there’s a power socket you can see that’s near enough) makes these not as convenient as they could be for actual flying gigs to other countries. Edited October 24, 2019 by Lozz196 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Hughes Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) Are these not phantom-powerable like a lot of other Tech21 pedals? (I mean the other fly-rigs like the Dug and the Bass Fly-Rig) Edited October 24, 2019 by Gareth Hughes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Cuzzie said: The Tech21 ‘Signature’ pedals are basically a box to achieve that person’s sound, but each of them do so much more. Incredibly well made, flexible and great sounding machines True. I use the DP-3X all the time and don't sound remotely like dug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: For me they’d be the ultimate fly-rigs if they had the option to run on batteries. Having to take a power supply and a converter plug (and then hope there’s a power socket you can see that’s near enough) makes these not as convenient as they could be for actual flying gigs to other countries. Totally agree with this. Not a deal breaker but i love how portable the BDDI/VTBass/PD are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Gareth Hughes said: Are these not phantom-powerable like a lot of other Tech21 pedals? (I mean the other fly-rigs like the Dug and the Bass Fly-Rig) Probably not, the DP-3X isn't. They couldn't use phantom power for the Bass Fly Rig because it had digital effects that drew too much power. But it would've been nice if the all analog ones had it, unless the tuner takes up a lot of mA? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Lozz196 said: For me they’d be the ultimate fly-rigs if they had the option to run on batteries. Having to take a power supply and a converter plug (and then hope there’s a power socket you can see that’s near enough) makes these not as convenient as they could be for actual flying gigs to other countries. They come with a multi function plug with different country adapters, so you can slide the ones on and off you need - that’s pretty good and universal. As for a power socket near where you play - they can’t quite think of everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Lozz196 said: For me they’d be the ultimate fly-rigs if they had the option to run on batteries. Having to take a power supply and a converter plug (and then hope there’s a power socket you can see that’s near enough) makes these not as convenient as they could be for actual flying gigs to other countries. I ran my dUg from a 5000mAh battery pack designed for iphone recharging with a cable that did the conversion from 5V to 9V. I now use 2 of the power packs to power my small pedal board. The packs are small and only £7.99. Cables about £5. Then run a daisy chain to the pedals. Job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Not being very good with techie stuff @fretmeister, if I understand correctly does this mean you aren’t connecting the pedal to mains, just via a small battery set-up with a converter and lead? If so that’s the workaround I’m sure many of us are after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: Not being very good with techie stuff @fretmeister, if I understand correctly does this mean you aren’t connecting the pedal to mains, just via a small battery set-up with a converter and lead? If so that’s the workaround I’m sure many of us are after. @Lozz196 Correct! There are some dedicated guitar pedal versions of battery packs but they tend to be very expensive for very similar specs. So I use these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00MWU1GGI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 with https://myvolts.co.uk/Ripcord Just make sure you pick the 9V centre negative version! I've also got one of these in my pack as a spare. https://myvolts.co.uk/product/44871/myVolts_5000mAh_2.4A_Power_Bank_-_Red Dead easy to use - charge up the pack and then use the 5V to 9V cable converter and run a daisy chain from the converter to your pedals. If you have low current draw pedals then you'll only need 1. If you have some hungry digital pedals like delays and synths then you might want to give that it's own battery pack. Personally I'd always take 2 anyway. At £7.99 they are dirt cheap and it's good to have a spare if you are gigging. Also has the benefit of being able to charge your phone for the journey home too! Some of the dedicated guitar versions are only 9V output so they can't be used for other USB purposes and they can cost over £100. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Lozz196 said: Not being very good with techie stuff @fretmeister, if I understand correctly does this mean you aren’t connecting the pedal to mains, just via a small battery set-up with a converter and lead? If so that’s the workaround I’m sure many of us are after. I can see that working for some, but then you the extra worry of having the batteries charged and extra leads to use them. One cable in to the wall seems more manageable. The PSU that comes with the Stomp is quite short so i just got a long extension for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 It's no different to making sure normal batteries are charged / available. I use it because where I play the power is extremely limited and it cuts down on the power cables and the weight of a normal under-board power supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 21/10/2019 at 16:13, dave_bass5 said: Now that sounds superb! Now I'm interested. Even if his broken string solution is making my teeth itch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, fretmeister said: Now that sounds superb! Now I'm interested. Even if his broken string solution is making my teeth itch! I'm more sceptical. The Fender P he's using should be capable of delivering a pretty classic Motown sound straight out the box. No need to fork out an extra £299 or is it £399(?) just to avoid having to dial your treble knob down a touch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 Shush you! I'm trying to justify spending money! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, dave_bass5 said: I can see that working for some, but then you the extra worry of having the batteries charged and extra leads to use them. One cable in to the wall seems more manageable. The PSU that comes with the Stomp is quite short so i just got a long extension for it. You can still have one cable to the wall - just a standard USB charger. If you add a battery to your pedalboard, you can treat it like a laptop, i.e. leave it plugged in most of the time so you don't have to worry about the battery, but unplug whenever you need to be mobile! However, if you're looking to power a HX Stomp from a battery, you'd have to invest in a rather large one! Edited October 25, 2019 by dannybuoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: You can still have one cable to the wall - just a standard USB charger. If you add a battery to your pedalboard, you can treat it like a laptop, i.e. leave it plugged in most of the time so you don't have to worry about the battery, but unplug whenever you need to be mobile! However, if you're looking to power a HX Stomp from a battery, you'd have to invest in a rather large one! Slight caveat - not every battery pack allows charging while in use. The Rockboard LT XL does, but I don't know about any others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: However, if you're looking to power a HX Stomp from a battery, you'd have to invest in a rather large one! This should do it.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: You can still have one cable to the wall - just a standard USB charger. If you add a battery to your pedalboard, you can treat it like a laptop, i.e. leave it plugged in most of the time so you don't have to worry about the battery, but unplug whenever you need to be mobile! However, if you're looking to power a HX Stomp from a battery, you'd have to invest in a rather large one! I think thats completely missing the point of me going battery powered. I get what you are saying, but if i wanted to use a cable to the wall then surely the unit's PSU would be used? Its all getting very complicated when all i wanted it do was use a battery powered FX so i dont have to worry about PSU's/cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 In that case, if you want to keep it simple, stick to lemons: One will provide you just shy of 0.9V. So 10 of those in series will give you 9V, then arrange enough of those in parallel to give you enough mA for the Stomp. This should do it: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 So not only do you get a biodegradable power supply, you also get a name for your band: Wall of Lemons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 41 minutes ago, bartelby said: So not only do you get a biodegradable power supply, you also get a name for your band: Wall of Lemons Brilliant idea, considering i have two in my band 😞 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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