Muted "G" - Thomastik Spirocore

[zvirus]

Hi,

Cant find any useful info regarding on The Web.

Got brand new Thomastik Spirocore 3/4 Light for my 3/4 Thomann Plywood DB and found that "G" sounds like "foam muted" - like G on a P-Bass with foam placed underneath.

It does happen with an open string and any position on a fingerboard.

D and A they ring as hell, E - not as good nor bad I`d say.

G is NOT twisted - checked very carefully. Action - around 5mm at the end of the fingerboard

 

This problem did not exist with Pirastro Obligato Set....

 

I will play with sound post position but before that would like to know what actually the problem is?

Thanks in Advance!

 

Cheers,

Tomas

Edited October 10, 2019 by zvirus

[T-Bay]

Have you tried a new string? Could just be a duff one. Otherwise worth checking how it sits over the saddle.

[zvirus]

2 minutes ago, T-Bay said:

Have you tried a new string? Could just be a duff one. Otherwise worth checking how it sits over the saddle.

They all BRAN NEW and checked and filed sadle - nothing has changed

Edited October 10, 2019 by zvirus

[T-Bay]

Just now, zvirus said:

They all BRAN NEW and bridge is cut/set to standards I`d say..

Could still be a duff string. Google dead strings and you find threads on here where people have had problems with new strings, I have only had it once thankfully but sounded just like you describe. It could be all sorts of things including the pick up, bridge etc etc but best to rule out the easy to fix/ cheap options first.

[zvirus]

My luck - lovely...

THANK YOU!!!

WIll contact Thomann and ask for help...

Edited October 10, 2019 by zvirus

[Beer of the Bass]

I had much the same with the G on a set of new Spirocores a couple of years ago, also bought from Thomann.  They sent a replacement which was fine, and I had to return just the G. 

[zvirus]

7 minutes ago, Beer of the Bass said:

I had much the same with the G on a set of new Spirocores a couple of years ago, also bought from Thomann.  They sent a replacement which was fine, and I had to return just the G. 

Great news then... I hope...  THANKS!

[alexpea]

is the ball end seated correctly in the tail piece?

[zvirus]

1 hour ago, alexpea said:

is the ball end seated correctly in the tail piece?

I believe so. One stage I got the string loose and back to tension to make sure is not TWISTED. Will check the end now...

.... all looks perfect... still I got muted G string

Edited October 10, 2019 by zvirus

[zvirus]

Please forgive me sloppy playing! This is how it sounds (recorded on a mobile phone, compressed and high and low cut on EQ) 60Hz-2000Hz range...:

https://youtu.be/IK6dM2DJork

Edited October 10, 2019 by zvirus

[zvirus]

9 hours ago, Beer of the Bass said:

I had much the same with the G on a set of new Spirocores a couple of years ago, also bought from Thomann.  They sent a replacement which was fine, and I had to return just the G. 

Did they wait for faulty string before shipping new one? This will take weeks to fix...  

[Beer of the Bass]

IIRC they waited until I'd dispatched it, but not until it reached them.

[zvirus]

Just now, Beer of the Bass said:

IIRC they waited until I'd dispatched it, but not until it reached them.

sounds good...THANKS! Awaiting their response...

[zvirus]

Hi,

Well... good news. Got replacement string today and..... FINALLY it is all right now! More harmonics - more SOUND! 

Exceptional service from Thomann!

 

Still do not get it how is it possible to spend £140 for BRAND NEW strings and get one "FAULTY"???😢

 

Cheers!

Tomas

 

[Beer of the Bass]

I think it can happen with any string manufacturer - I don't know of any who have never had a faulty string. The important thing is how they deal with it.