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4000 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Barking Spiders said: I didn't pick on pop as everyone knows it's vacuous, disposable and targeted mainly at kids while hard rock and metal are targeted mainly at introverted spotty teenagers. Fixed. And speaking as someone who likes lots of metal and was one.😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bassfinger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Utterly meaningless, utterly brilliant...Millionaire by Queens of the Stone Age... Dead blow with the life from the low I'll be massive conquistador Give me sword, show me the door Metal heavy, shocked at the core Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Pressurize, neutralize Deep fried, gimme some more Space flunky, four on the floor Fortified with the liquor store This one's down, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Shrunken head, I love to adore B movie, gimme some gore Gimme toro, gimme some more B movie, gimme some gore Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Right from the beginnings of heavy metal the lyrics have been macho, vacuous and devoid of relevancy or social comment: Generals gathered in their masses, just like witches at black masses. Evil minds that plot destruction, sorcerer of death's construction. In the fields the bodies burning, as the war machine keeps turning. Death and hatred to mankind, poisoning their brainwashed minds... Oh lord yeah! Politicians hide themselves away They only started the war Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor Time will tell on their power minds Making war just for fun Treating people just like pawns in chess Wait 'till their judgement day comes, yeah! Now in darkness, world stops turning, ashes where the bodies burning. No more war pigs have the power, hand of god has struck the hour. Day of judgement, god is calling, on their knees the war pigs crawling. Begging mercy for their sins, Satan, laughing, spreads his wings... Oh lord, yeah! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 To be fair, that example is dripping with social comment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I know we don't fit the genre but on the topic of 'meaningless' lyrics let me present to you verse 1 and 2 of the SL&G song Close to the Sea - see if you can work out what inspired the lyric: Pinned to a day Striped like a cage Suits you in grey Made to withstand Too many plans Measured in sand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 13 hours ago, 4000 said: hard rock and metal are targeted mainly at introverted spotty teenagers. I thought that was more Shoegaze territory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 19 hours ago, skankdelvar said: I return to my contention that Mr James Blunt and his ilk feigned their pathetic uselessness Whereas Mr Steven Patrick Morrissey was, I'm sure, 100% genuine in his : I go and I stand on my own, and I leave on my own, and I go home and I cry and I want to die - How Soon Is Now? 1984 The Smiths 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 I'd rather put up with schlocky boy meets girl/man/transgender person/donkey, falls in lurve yada blah than all that self-empowerment/be strong tripe that pervades many songs, not just rock but also pop, going way back to I Will Survive. I picked on that dire Halestorm track for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Twigman said: Whereas Mr Steven Patrick Morrissey was, I'm sure, 100% genuine in his : I go and I stand on my own, and I leave on my own, and I go home and I cry and I want to die - How Soon Is Now? 1984 The Smiths Insufferable and pretentious as he often comes across (especially in more recent years...), you couldn't really accuse him of grinding through the usually cliches: I am the son, and the heir, of a shyness that is criminally vulgar... from the same - at least it's different. No team of nine lyricists trained in manufacturing chart hits is likely to come up with something comparable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, EliasMooseblaster said: Insufferable and pretentious as he often comes across (especially in more recent years...), you couldn't really accuse him of grinding through the usually cliches Don't get me wrong - I'm a huge Smiths fan - I'm not so keen on Mr Morrissey, the man, he's a silly billy but I did enjoy a Smiths lyric: His take on first love is great too: It's time the tale were told Of how you took a child And you made him old You made him old Reel around the fountain Slap me on the patio I'll take it now Oh Fifteen minutes with you Well, I wouldn't say no Oh, people said that you were virtually dead And they were so wrong Reel Around The Fountain - 1984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I know I've gone way off topic and the genre but one of my favourite meaningless lyrics is Numbers by Kraftwerk: Eins, zwei, drei, vier Fünf, sechs, sieben, acht Uno, dos Três, quatro One, two Ichi, ni, san, shi Adjin, dva, tri Li, tva, tri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, Barking Spiders said: I'd rather put up with schlocky boy meets girl/man/transgender person/donkey, falls in lurve yada blah than all that self-empowerment/be strong tripe that pervades many songs, not just rock but also pop, going way back to I Will Survive. I picked on that dire Halestorm track for that reason. No lack of teenage rebellion lyrics there 🙂 We're all wasted, And we're not going home tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I'd like to humbly submit the below for the defence Converge - A Single Tear I was so naive Fearful of the substantive Of the greying days Of carrying endless weight And what it really meant To truly mean something To really be someone who could be loved So lost in darkness In and out of selfishness Hoarding all my dreams Was just no way to be Then you gifted me such a precious thing A chance to be someone who deserved love When I heard A single tear Your cry ring out A single tear It showed me what A single tear Real strength could be A single tear As a single teardrop fell And was swallowed by the sea You outshined the best there was Rewrote who I could be You outshined the best there was Rewrote who I could be When I held you for the first time I knew I had to survive When I held you for the first time I knew I had to survive As a single teardrop fell As a single teardrop fell As a single teardrop fell As a single teardrop fell When I heard A single tear Your cry ring out A single tear It showed me what A single tear Real strength could be A single tear A single tear A single tear A single tear A single tear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Twigman said: I thought that was more Shoegaze territory That didn’t exist in my day. I was listening to heavy rock - NOT metal! - in the late 70s and I started playing at 17, in 1980. To me, Iron Maiden are a new band. Seriously! I remember the first time they were on top of the pops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 15/10/2019 at 16:38, Lozz196 said: Take a listen to The Macc Lads, lyrical genius imo but after that any song sounds meaningful. Quite. Anyone who can rhyme 'Macclesfield' with 'knackers feeled' should be in with a shout to topple Carol Ann Duffy as Poet Laureate.... 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I'd like to humbly submit some lyrics of my own to illustrate just how deep musical verse can be (imagine it intoned in a Manchester accent): 1. My mate Dave, he turned to me With great portent and evident glee “There’s a storm a-comin’” quoth he “There’s thunder in them hills you’ll see 2. “There’s a rumble in the jungle, a one-gun salute “More tea vicar? Me flatus is acute “You thought I couldn’t play the Tibetan noseflute “I think I’ve just spattered me 3 piece suit” There she blows! 3. I said to him “just be direct, call a spade a spade, “you’ll get respect. “Don’t just blame your dialect, “that’s an excuse that I reject “even if your kecks are now brown-flecked, “maybe now you’ll be more circumspect 4. He said “You can’t hold what you haven’t got in your hand “better an empty house than a bad tenant “get out and walk, I should be on Grandstand! “that one’d drown out Barbara Streisand” There she blows! 5. I heard it’d all ended in tears. He’d done summat daft and confirmed me fears He’d been practicing a trick to impress his mates Showing what’d happen when his abdomen inflates And a match is applied to the rear of his pants However, he set fire to the curtain And soon the whole house has gone for a burton Now he lives in the park with a can of strong lager And that’s the end of this sorry saga There she blows! 🤘😀 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Leonard Smalls said: some lyrics of my own I am impressed. Do I detect the influence of the late Sir John Betjeman in your approach to meter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I think that's almost certainly the case; furthermore the sweep of the narrative arc and the thematic focus recall another sublime high water mark in the librettist's art, Dan's Underpant. Marvellous. More lager, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, skankdelvar said: late Sir John Betjeman More like the not-at-all-late Dr John Cooper Clarke, who penned my favourite Haiku (in fact only Haiku I know or can be bothered with): To freeze A Moment In seventeen syllables Is very difi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastodon2 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) On 16/10/2019 at 11:36, kendall said: I've always liked the lyrics that Meshuggah come up with. This gem is from an awesome track called Closed Eye Visuals. Unbound to the pale and lifeless day by the multi-colored, multiform A spinning anti-dream unthought. Exceeding the obsolete reality Overheated inner shape generator. Blowing every cerebral fuse Insanity filtered and systematized. Feeding the tools of mind abuse Mind signal transmission peaked, distorted, bent, unrestrained etc etc I think the fact that Meshuggah's lyricists aren't native English speakers, yet they decide to write and sing in English, helps them achieve their "words picked out of a hat and arranged into a sentence" lyrical style. Edited October 17, 2019 by Mastodon2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Muzz said: Quite. Anyone who can rhyme 'Macclesfield' with 'knackers feeled' should be in with a shout to topple Carol Ann Duffy as Poet Laureate.... 🙂 Don’t forget they managed to fit George Michael and menstrual cycle into another of their songs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 just the lyrics you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oZZma Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Mastodon2 said: I think the fact that Meshuggah's lyricists aren't native English speakers, yet they decide to write and sing in English, helps them achieve their "words picked out of a hat and arranged into a sentence" lyrical style. I usually don't care much for the lyrics but I dig Meshuggah's ones. I think it's just talent... The Melvins are native speakers but they have the kind of writing you say, "words picked out of a hat and arranged into a sentence", more focused on sounds/suggestion than descriptive/narrative. They use fake/distorted words too. Or with distorted meanings (nouns used as verbs etc) (Meshuggah are more descriptive and less dadaistic IMO, but still...) One would expect not native speakers to do something like that almost naturally, but actually here in Italy I don't know anyone with that kind of writing, with that weird and abstract imagination, like someone who feels free from the constraints of "proper" wording and logical sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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