odysseus Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 Have you ever looked at the line up of musicians for a new project and thought, "Wow, this is going to be fantastic!" then when they release an album you end up quite disappointed? Chickenfoot springs to mind, and also Gizmodrome (unpopular opinion alert!) though I think that one was more down to my expectations than anything they were doing wrong. Obviously, it will be subjective... Any others? Quote
paul_5 Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 For me it’s Steely Dan; a band whose pedigree is without equal, but whose output is just utter shït. ymmv 3 1 2 1 1 Quote
toneknob Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 I was rather fond of Gizmodrome (front row at their Scala gig helped) but in a strange bit of overlap my suggestion would be Oysterhead - Stewart Copeland, Trey Anastasio and Les Claypool. Now I love the Police, Phish and Primus but Oysterhead just didn't click. They'vejust announced some reunion shows for some time in 2020, coincidentally. Quote
thodrik Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 The Winery Dogs Audioslave Queen + Paul Rogers Them Crooked Vultures I don’t dislike the above bands or collaborations, but I was never blown away by their output compared to how technically brilliant each band member was as an individual. 6 Quote
KevB Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 Blind Faith were probably one of the early supergroup fails. Quote
Guest Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 I'd disagree with Them Crooked Vultures. Love their work. Asia. John Mayall's Bluesbreakers. And I'll go out on a limb and say most iterations of Whitesnake. Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, KevB said: Blind Faith were probably one of the early supergroup fails. Commercially, not musically! Quote
Crawford13 Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, toneknob said: Oysterhead - Stewart Copeland, Trey Anastasio and Les Claypool. Now I love the Police, Phish and Primus but Oysterhead just didn't click Gotta say I loved Oysterhead, I guess it just shows music is so subjective. The one that probably missed the mark for me was the Transplants. Quote
T-Bay Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 Audio space and them crooked vultures for me as well, both firmly in the Meh camp. Quote
thodrik Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 Metallica + Lou Reed. Though on some level I am absolutely delighted that such a collaboration actually took place. 2 Quote
Heathy Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 38 minutes ago, Bassfinger said: I'd disagree with Them Crooked Vultures. Love their work. Me too. And they were great live. I was sat directly behind JPJ at the Albert Hall when he was playing the keyboards. He plays better bass with his feet than many do with their hands! Can anyone think of any 'supergroups' who exceeded expectations though? Quote
thodrik Posted October 21, 2019 Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Heathy said: Can anyone think of any 'supergroups' who exceeded expectations though? Mad Season. Cream Bad Company Down Temple of the Dog A Perfect Circle Also, guilty pleasure but I quite liked Billy Corgan’s Zwan side project... 1 Quote
Davo-London Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 I'd agree about Cream. Apart from Sunshine of your Love, I find their output quite forgettable. I really don't like Ginger Baker's drumming, which would explain my indifference to Cream. Peace Davo 1 Quote
Leonard Smalls Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Animal Logic! You'd think Stanley (despite some of his dodgier solo offerings) and Stewart Copeland could produce something better than 80s cheese! Quote
Barking Spiders Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) If you mean super groups formed by geezers from other successful bands then + 1 for Audioslave. RATM and Soundgarden are two of my fave bands from the 90s but I was well underwhelmed by Audioslave's albums. At least the ex RATM guys made amends with Prophets of Rage. As for Chickenfoot, IMO it never looked that promising on paper in the first place, not after the various dull G3 incarnations and woeful post DLR Van Halen output. Add the drummer from one of my least fave bands of all time and my expectations were low yet Chickenfoot still failed to live up to them Edited October 22, 2019 by Barking Spiders 1 1 Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Heathy said: Can anyone think of any 'supergroups' who exceeded expectations though? Led Zeppelin? Electric Light Orchestra? 1 Quote
EliasMooseblaster Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Heathy said: Can anyone think of any 'supergroups' who exceeded expectations though? Do Rainbow count? What with the original lineup featuring Ritchie Blackmore, Cozy Powell, Ronnie James Dio and...erm...the other two. Quote
LewisK1975 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 13 hours ago, thodrik said: The Winery Dogs Audioslave Queen + Paul Rogers Them Crooked Vultures I don’t dislike the above bands or collaborations, but I was never blown away by their output compared to how technically brilliant each band member was as an individual. I can't agree about The Winery Dogs I'm afraid. For me, the 2 albums they've done so far are utterly fantastic. I guess that's they great thing about music and it's complete subjectivity! Good idea for a thread mind you! Quote
TimR Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 It seems quite common in lots of amateur bands I watch. It’s quite a skill to play in a band and sound like a band rather than a bunch of individuals playing parts of a song in the same room. Supergroups would come under the same umbrella. Taking the most talented (and often egotistical) members of several different bands who have never worked together and putting them into one band is a recipe for disaster. Quote
EliasMooseblaster Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 39 minutes ago, TimR said: Supergroups would come under the same umbrella. Taking the most talented (and often egotistical) members of several different bands who have never worked together and putting them into one band is a recipe for disaster. I've long suspected the problem is that these groups just don't have a great writer among them. Your Billy Sheehans, Paul Gilberts, Steve Vais, etc., are incredibly accomplished instrumentalists, but are they necessarily the people you'd want writing the songs that your supergroup is going to play? The Brian Wilsons, Pete Townshends, Ray Davieseses of the world weren't necessarily the best musicians in their groups, but they knew how to write a good tune and had groups who were prepared to let them lead on the writing. I say this not to suggest that good writing is mutually exclusive from impressive musicianship; more to suggest that a lot of these supergroups overlook what made their original bands worth listening to in the first place. 7 Quote
BigRedX Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Heathy said: Can anyone think of any 'supergroups' who exceeded expectations though? Not exactly a supergroup but certainly far in excess of the sum of their parts: The Postal Service. Death Cab For Cutie have written and recorded a fair number of great songs, but when compared with their overall back catalogue the proportion of decent songs to filler is depressingly low. DNTEL have yet to create anything memorable apart from "(This Is) The Dream of Evan and Chan" which is The Postal Service in all but name. Quote
Graham Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 15 hours ago, thodrik said: Metallica + Lou Reed. Though on some level I am absolutely delighted that such a collaboration actually took place. I listened to that album not long ago, it's the worst thing I've ever heard Quote
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