funkle Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Honestly, my take on pickups is that the height makes a huge difference. I’ve used lots of replacement pickups - the Fender CS 60’s were a particular favourite - but getting the height right is something that is often neglected, and makes a huge difference. I still need to get mine to Chris McIntyre to sort out the high fret. Ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, funkle said: Honestly, my take on pickups is that the height makes a huge difference. I’ve used lots of replacement pickups - the Fender CS 60’s were a particular favourite - but getting the height right is something that is often neglected, and makes a huge difference. I still need to get mine to Chris McIntyre to sort out the high fret. Ah well. Agreed. It took me a few rehearsals to get the balance just how i want it, but from the start i felt the CS pups gave me a tone I'd been looking for since i got the Jazz. Certainly it now sounds better to my ears than any other Jazz ive had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 I think the 60’s winds are meant to be quite open and some seem to have a nice bottom low mids thing. I’m pushing that freq area with a tone hammer but if I can get something voiced that way perfect. I’ve done a basic set up on the cv since getting it but haven’t changed pick up height. Gonna make some measurements before stripping the body for the respray so I’ll experiment then. Good call 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, krispn said: I think the 60’s winds are meant to be quite open and some seem to have a nice bottom low mids thing. I’m pushing that freq area with a tone hammer but if I can get something voiced that way perfect. I’ve done a basic set up on the cv since getting it but haven’t changed pick up height. Gonna make some measurements before stripping the body for the respray so I’ll experiment then. Good call I play with a pick and struggle with tone. Just cant get away from certain traits that pick playing has, but the CS pups seems to be very sympathetic to my playing style. Probably just a placebo effect owing to the fact that the pups cost so much, but the bass does seem warmer and clearer, without having too much up top. I tend to stick to Fender's spec when it comes to set ups, and then tweak as needed. Most of the time i dont need to. I also have the neck shimmed and this really makes the action feel better for me. This bass has been used as a beater bass, with different necks and bridges etc, its the bass that has had the most mods, but its at a stage where its just perfect. Now if only i didnt have a £1300 bass sitting in a gig bag not getting played...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 Yeah I’m not a massive fan of super zingy top end and since adding the new pots/loom the tone control is working as hoped. For me rolling tone back bit and a touch off the back pick up (5-10%) is enough to remove enough zing and colour the sound but still get that jazz thing if I dig in or need to throw the thumb at it for any reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 So I may have refinished the bass in Sherwood green... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 Terrible picture but you get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, krispn said: Terrible picture but you get the idea. Lovely colour. I like strong colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Yes, it's a lovely colour - nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Wasn't there a consensus a while ago that Squier were putting Tonerider pickups in the CV series? From my (admittedly limited) experience, Tonerider are in a similar league to Wilkinson - i.e., the "Hardware That Really Shouldn't Sound As Good As It Does At That Price Point" category. I imagine you could do a lot worse than to keep them where they are. Looks nice with the green refin, by the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 I’m actually happy with the bass as it sounds but it’s the lure that something else may be better but I’ll certainly not make any changes until the new year if I do go that route. I’ll just tell folks I’ve put in some unheard of esoteric brand and no one will be any the wiser. The green has turned out as hoped (phew) but I’ll likely need to touch it up. The back is a bit patchy but not overly concerned for now out of sight out of mind. pretty straightforward to do if anyone was thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Never really been into green basses, but that does look good on that body shape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, EliasMooseblaster said: Wasn't there a consensus a while ago that Squier were putting Tonerider pickups in the CV series? From my (admittedly limited) experience, Tonerider are in a similar league to Wilkinson - i.e., the "Hardware That Really Shouldn't Sound As Good As It Does At That Price Point" category. I imagine you could do a lot worse than to keep them where they are. Looks nice with the green refin, by the way! This is an original CV, is that what you are referring to, or the new, lesser CV range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Al Krow said: Never really been into green basses, but that does look good on that body shape! I almost bought a sherwood green classic vibe strat, it was pretty tempting, I also have never been a fan of the colour before but it looked right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Woodinblack said: I almost bought a sherwood green classic vibe strat, it was pretty tempting, I also have never been a fan of the colour before but it looked right I kinda think that the combination of the PG on krispn's bass, with the white edge, is what makes the green work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 For me on the Strat it was the slight yellowing of the pick guard and pickups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) Sherwood Green is a sleeper colour. You don’t think you like it but then you behold it’s beauty. Relic’d Sherwood is even better! Having had the neck off this is a 2008 model not that it makes a difference but it is playable. I also took the lacquer off the neck to suit me. Feels great! Edited November 18, 2019 by krispn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 17 hours ago, dave_bass5 said: This is an original CV, is that what you are referring to, or the new, lesser CV range? Yes, I think it was the original run about which the Tonerider rumours started - I don't know a great deal about the newer range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicVibes Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I have kept my CV Jazz stock since I was pretty happy with the sound already. The only mod I have made come to think of it is that I have added some Dunlop straplocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono Bolton Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 23 hours ago, dave_bass5 said: This is an original CV, is that what you are referring to, or the new, lesser CV range? The original Chinese CVs were supposedly made in the same factory as Tonerider pickups, and there was talk on a forum somewhere of a Fender rep confirming that they were using unbranded Toneriders in the Classic Vibes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share Posted November 19, 2019 Good to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Jono Bolton said: The original Chinese CVs were supposedly made in the same factory as Tonerider pickups, and there was talk on a forum somewhere of a Fender rep confirming that they were using unbranded Toneriders in the Classic Vibes. Never heard this before. Not disclaiming it, but its the first time ive heard about it. Are these good pups then? Never heard of them either lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicVibes Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 I've heard of Tonerider pickups being used in the Chinese CVs and for the money, they're the best bang for buck pickup out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono Bolton Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 19/11/2019 at 16:54, dave_bass5 said: Never heard this before. Not disclaiming it, but its the first time ive heard about it. Are these good pups then? Never heard of them either lol. I'd only heard the name but never heard the pickups themselves. A lot of people were buying CVs and immediately ripping out the pickups and a lot of the hardware (mostly massive virgins on guitar forums) and then it became a widespread semi-fact that they were Toneriders. I think that includes the other Chinese-made signature models, like Biffy Clyro Strat & Jazz, and Matt Freeman P Bass. I've never bothered my derrière to look and see what it is but the pickup in my Matt Freeman is tremendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Lovely looking bass guitars guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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