The IEM (in ear monitors) Bible thread

[EBS_freak]

That they are - the Fischer was always too expensive to lead the IEM charge and Behringer took the oopportunity. Makes you wonder how cheap these things are to actually produce. I bet Fischer hadn't got the money behind them to risk it to get the price breaks.

[Al Krow]

10 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

The stereo is if you are being fed a stereo signal from an XLR rather than the more normal mono. I don't know if it actually reads stereo from a TRS - haven't tried it. The chapman stick sends stereo down an XLR so it is handy for me

The behringer can do the same, but its mono / stereo switch is on the circuit board on a tiny switch that most people dont' notice.

 

The casing is steel and seems like you would have to go out of your way to damage it.

 

 

Cheers - at £13.50 a pop including (including P&P and import taxes) and with a separately openable battery section, these Alt P2s seem to be a bit of a no brainer punt! I've just ordered a couple via Ali Express instead of the £27 (plus P&P) Behringer P2s

[MartinB]

Do the AliExpress versions have a limiter like the Fischer/Behringer?

[Woodinblack]

1 hour ago, Greg Edwards69 said:

Aren't they both copies of the (considerably more expensive) Fischer In-Ear Stick? Or have Ali-Express managed to copy a copy?

 

Indeed - I had never seen that before, but yes, that is what the behringer is, right down to the exposed clip

[Woodinblack]

8 minutes ago, MartinB said:

Do the AliExpress versions have a limiter like the Fischer/Behringer?

 

The behringer circuitboard hasn't got that many componants on it, and is very easy to see what is there (seeing as you have to get the circuit board out to change the batteries). The Aliexpress harder as you have to take it apart - I am betting they are identical - there are like £5 of componants there at one off cost, I would think it would be pennies at production cost.

[MartinB]

Yeah I figured it was most likely identical - just odd that they don't mention it. I'll give it a test when it arrives 🙂

[lemmywinks]

The AliExpress copy is fine, mine was about £13 and performs the same as the Behringer. The belt clip is a better design, the battery access (while not being perfect) is also better IMO.

Edited December 2, 2024 by lemmywinks

[MrPring]

Thicko alert 🙋‍♂️

 

How do you send a stereo signal from say an xr18 to a p2. Do I need to buy like a 2 XLR female to stereo TRS? 

 

Edit:

 

Just found this site which explains it... 

 

http://silentsky.net/wordpress/archives/930

 

As you were. 

[warwickhunt]

£10.99 for Aliexpress version! 

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007906649805.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.43.7499PvxbPvxbw0&algo_pvid=3fbd541c-504b-4973-853d-d16c08108430&algo_exp_id=3fbd541c-504b-4973-853d-d16c08108430-21&pdp_npi=4%40dis!GBP!13.60!10.99!!!121.77!98.37!%4021038e6617331426106515212e1d87!12000042793689611!sea!UK!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=f7OroYJckm4P&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

[lemmywinks]

20 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

£10.99 for Aliexpress version! 

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007906649805.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.43.7499PvxbPvxbw0&algo_pvid=3fbd541c-504b-4973-853d-d16c08108430&algo_exp_id=3fbd541c-504b-4973-853d-d16c08108430-21&pdp_npi=4%40dis!GBP!13.60!10.99!!!121.77!98.37!%4021038e6617331426106515212e1d87!12000042793689611!sea!UK!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=f7OroYJckm4P&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch|query_from%3A

 

Yeah that's the one, will end up a quid or two more after tax. Bargain really.

[TimR]

What is teh requirement for stereo monitoring. Seems a lot of extra faff for no reward whatsoever. Especially if you're taking a FOH feed from the main PA and mixing it in to your bass. 

[lemmywinks]

15 minutes ago, TimR said:

What is teh requirement for stereo monitoring. Seems a lot of extra faff for no reward whatsoever. Especially if you're taking a FOH feed from the main PA and mixing it in to your bass. 

 

 

You can pan certain instruments to the left or right, it's much better. I use a mono IEM feed at the moment and I do miss stereo, not as much as I thought I would but given the option I'd definitely go stereo if possible.

 

[warwickhunt]

1 hour ago, lemmywinks said:

 

Yeah that's the one, will end up a quid or two more after tax. Bargain really.

 

I didn't think you'd pay tax on a low value item?

 

[EBS_freak]

1 hour ago, TimR said:

What is teh requirement for stereo monitoring. Seems a lot of extra faff for no reward whatsoever. Especially if you're taking a FOH feed from the main PA and mixing it in to your bass. 

Additionally - Have a couple of overheads over the drums panned hard left and right and you'll hear how much it opens the room up.

[acidbass]

On 20/11/2024 at 17:32, bassmansam said:

I'm interested to know what you think about the UE6 vs UE11. 

 

I have the UE6 and will need to change someday. 

I demo'ed the full UE range 2 weeks ago when choosing a new moulded set

 

Very happy former user of UE11 for approx 6 years up until 2018 ish.

 

I had gone in with the intention to buy the UE18 and was totally blown away by the UE Live set, which I eventually went with.

 

In order I would rank the earphones:

 

- UE Live

- UE11

- UE18

 

The 11s have great bottom end but the dynamic driver in the UE Live makes them sound incredible! 

[lemmywinks]

2 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

 

I didn't think you'd pay tax on a low value item?

 

 

 

Just looked and mine was £11.25 with £2.25 tax added.

[Rosie C]

4 hours ago, EBS_freak said:

That they are - the Fischer was always too expensive to lead the IEM charge and Behringer took the oopportunity. Makes you wonder how cheap these things are to actually produce.

 

I swapped my Behringer amp for Fischer on the understanding that Fischer has a limiter built-in. I'm not sure whether Behringer amps do? I used Behringer for years with my double bass without any problems, but I wanted to use my IEMs for vocals too and was nervous about getting feedback. 

[Al Krow]

3 hours ago, lemmywinks said:

 

 

Just looked and mine was £11.25 with £2.25 tax added.

 

Yeah mine were £13.50 apiece, all in, too.

 

3 hours ago, warwickhunt said:

 

I didn't think you'd pay tax on a low value item?

 

There used to be a £15 low value item exemption on imported goods, but that got scrapped a while back, I think?

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by Al Krow

[lemmywinks]

Yeah 20% VAT is added at the point of sale, unless the item is declared* as over £135 that's all you pay.

 

 

*It never is

[lemmywinks]

The best thing about AliExpress is that they'll usually use Evri Cai Niao when it arrives in the UK, so if you pick the option of delivery to a Parcelshop (and you should as they'll lose it, nick it or punt it over someone else's fence otherwise) then it'll take them ages and you get a £1 late delivery coupon per item. I order a lot of cheaper Choice items regularly which all arrive in one bag so for a single £10 or so order I get a handful of £1 vouchers to use.

 

Coupled with the coins I have on there (tap the collect coins every day and you get a few hundred) it'll halve the tax on smaller orders.

Edited December 2, 2024 by lemmywinks

[paul_5]

I've just ordered the AliExpress amp, simply cos it's much smaller than my current IEM amplifier, and it's cheap as chips! Will let you all know how it performs if/when it arrives.

[Phil Starr]

Well I’ve finally done it. I’ve ordered custom tips from Snugs. One pair for my KZ ZS10 Pro and another for my Sennheiser IE100’s I’m booked in for impressions on the 16th and should have them for the new year.

Edited December 5, 2024 by Phil Starr

[glassmoon]

10 hours ago, Phil Starr said:

Well I’ve finally done it. I’ve ordered custom tips from Snugs. One pair for my KZ ZS10 Pro and another for my Sennheiser IE100’s I’m booked in for impressions on the 16th and should have them for the new year.

Where did you get your impressions made?

[EBS_freak]

12 hours ago, Phil Starr said:

Well I’ve finally done it. I’ve ordered custom tips from Snugs. One pair for my KZ ZS10 Pro and another for my Sennheiser IE100’s I’m booked in for impressions on the 16th and should have them for the new year.

Maybe I'm a bit of a wrongun, but having ear impressions taken makes me go all gooey :P.  Love it.

[Phil Starr]

3 hours ago, glassmoon said:

Where did you get your impressions made?

At Snugs HQ, it’s not too far for me.