lemmywinks Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 6 hours ago, stewblack said: Why are people so cross with Ashdown over this? It could be bad business, the basses may not sell. But unless you're a shareholder, why are you so upset about it? Nobody is mad at Ashdown, we're discussing their basses. This is a bass discussion forum so it would seem like the right place to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, AndyTravis said: Yeah - really elegant. That control layout is a shame...but love the shape See for me, that bottom horn just doesn’t sit with the rest of it. Headstock too, if I’m honest. The Rumour though, very nicely thought out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 On 30/04/2020 at 14:17, Stub Mandrel said: It's possible to take plenty of classic design hints and still come up with something that looks new and awesome, while having enough familiarity not to offend. I think this looks far better than many 'boutique' basses: Aargh! My eyes!👀 Nice colour though. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 On 30/04/2020 at 14:17, Stub Mandrel said: It's possible to take plenty of classic design hints and still come up with something that looks new and awesome, while having enough familiarity not to offend. I think this looks far better than many 'boutique' basses: Actually... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 hours ago, AndyTravis said: I really enjoy the Spector NS body shape, but whenever I sit with them I end up hunched over them. NS stands for Not Sitting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, spectoremg said: NS stands for Not Sitting. Knew I was getting it wrong 🧐 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, FDC484950 said: Again that’s nonsense. We are not talking about the validity of a boutique custom builder producing a high end P or J (like Molloon or Overwater, Lull, Sadowsky etc), but a midrange, likely Far East factory build of a product that is little different to dozens of near identical manufacturers’ output. For £300-ish and made in China Squiers are very good indeed, as are MIM/MIJ Fenders, which are more at the Ashdown price point. It’s a crowded market place - with no differentiation (bog standard looks, std Fender colours, passive) how will they get market share? Because they make amps? Hang on, is the argument that they aren’t being innovative or that you think they’ve made a bad business decision? 😂 you can’t tell from a photo what the bass will sound or feel like, yet you’ve decided it’s not worthy to the market. Now that is nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicVibes Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: Actually... Hmm... I've seen that somewhere before... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, OliverBlackman said: Hang on, is the argument that they aren’t being innovative or that you think they’ve made a bad business decision? 😂 you can’t tell from a photo what the bass will sound or feel like, yet you’ve decided it’s not worthy to the market. Now that is nonsense. As you seem to fail to understand what anyone is saying about churning out another clone in a crowded market segment, the answer is both. No doubt you’ll be able to continue arguing the point but it will be with yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 hours ago, AndyTravis said: Actually... Doesn't that prove the case, the Ashown that isn't essentially a clone is visually the most interesting? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JottoSW1 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: Doesn't that prove the case, the Ashown that isn't essentially a clone is visually the most interesting? Like that lots, guess no Leftys available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: Doesn't that prove the case, the Ashown that isn't essentially a clone is visually the most interesting? Judging by Classicvibes post above it actually is......but just not a Fender. 😉😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 hours ago, lemmywinks said: Nobody is mad at Ashdown, we're discussing their basses. This is a bass discussion forum so it would seem like the right place to do it. But lots of people seem to be. No need for the sarcasm really, it was a fair question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, stewblack said: But lots of people seem to be. No need for the sarcasm really, it was a fair question. Nobody has been angry at Ashdown though, that was the point. Some disappointment definitely but nobody is mad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, lemmywinks said: Nobody has been angry at Ashdown though, that was the point. Some disappointment definitely but nobody is mad. Have to put it down to my misinterpretation then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Tell ya how Ashdown would have got my grand post haste. 51/Tele style body, single coil HEADLESS like Dusty's in Sharp Dressed Man ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 For me, an Ashdown bass should reflect the 30s styling of their logo, perhaps a stainless steel body resembling the Chrysler building... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Stub Mandrel said: For me, an Ashdown bass should reflect the 30s styling of their logo, perhaps a stainless steel body resembling the Chrysler building... I said this a while ago in a drunken chat with Lee at Ashdown. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) Anyone play one of these yet ? To my eye they look Mexico fender league ...but more expensive. the maple neck p bass sure looks good 🤔 Edited May 7, 2020 by Quilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 01/05/2020 at 18:53, Stub Mandrel said: Doesn't that prove the case, the Ashown that isn't essentially a clone is visually the most interesting? I don’t like it’s derrière Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 01/05/2020 at 17:02, ClassicVibes said: Hmm... I've seen that somewhere before... I prefer the look of the Reverend 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 07/01/2020 at 13:01, Machines said: I'm unsure if these instruments have any particular unique selling point that other brands at this price point may have. The fact they are backed up by Dan Lakin to me means they will be great instruments, but so far they look very anonymous in an ocean of Fender clones. (with Lakland at least, the oval bridge is distinctive). The previous fate of the 'D Lakin' basses was quite tragic also, they seemed to not sell very well anywhere despite being good instruments. I would expect these to be on par with Skylines in general, if not made by the very same factory (and i'd wager they are). Are those Basses gone ? They seemed to be a very good bass but had a horrible headstock from what I can remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) Did anyone but one of these basses. Ashdown seem to be promoting them quite heavily on social media. It gives the impression that they've not sold well? Maybe they have sold well? Edited December 13, 2020 by Marvin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, Marvin said: Did anyone but one of these basses. Ashdown seem to be promoting them quite heavily on social media. It gives the impression that they've not sold well? Maybe they have sold well? I didn’t end up getting my hands on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Both their Precision & Jazz style basses are marked as sold out on their website , so doesn’t look too bad for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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