monquixote Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 The LMKII is quite a clean pure sounding amp. I've A/Bed it with an Ashdown a few times and the Ashdown will always sound much more muddy and grungy in comparison although I can get a pretty mean sound by sticking an EBS multidrive in front of it an adding a bit of VLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisyjon Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 How about the Behringer BX4500H Ultrabass head? I play punk, rock & metal and use this amp regularly - it's a good & cheap amp. There's a 'shape' function that is just great for sitting the bass in amongst the metal guitarists! See a link for a price [url="http://www.dv247.com/invt/29020/"]HERE[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 [quote name='jonthebass' post='395749' date='Jan 30 2009, 09:18 PM']How about the Behringer BX4500H Ultrabass head? I play punk, rock & metal and use this amp regularly - it's a good & cheap amp. There's a 'shape' function that is just great for sitting the bass in amongst the metal guitarists! See a link for a price [url="http://www.dv247.com/invt/29020/"]HERE[/url][/quote] Nonononononononono! I'm glad you like it matey, but i've had behringer gear before, and that's a route i'm not going down again! Rather have my ashdown Appreciate the advice though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 So without having tried anything out, i was looking at some other stuff online, and i noticed [url="http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/78801"]this[/url] line six amp, it looks good and the idea is there, but does anybody know how it sounds? Also, [url="http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/profet-51/68770"]this[/url] warwick profet 5.1, seems cheap, i'm sure they were more than that before, how do they sound? Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faz_man Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 [quote name='metaltime' post='392340' date='Jan 27 2009, 12:57 AM']I had a mark bass head an sm450 i think it was called. It was a good head but i found it a little to polite for metal. I switched to my current head an ampeg svp and power amp and i was much happier. In fact PMd[/quote] I'm going to be extremely rude and sponge off this thread as its active. I've got the s 450 too, going into a mesa 2 x "15 (cab 'o' doom!). Its a pretty sweet set up but I'd like more dirtier mids but worried the Sansamp would weaken the signal path. When my tones clean I like to keep it clean but pretty dirty at the same time (that make sense to anyone?) I don't do metal anymore but like to keep bass sounding (well again) DIRTY. Sansamp a good bet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmesa Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote name='faz_man' post='396522' date='Jan 31 2009, 11:10 PM']I'm going to be extremely rude and sponge off this thread as its active. I've got the s 450 too, going into a mesa 2 x "15 (cab 'o' doom!). Its a pretty sweet set up but I'd like more dirtier mids but worried the Sansamp would weaken the signal path. When my tones clean I like to keep it clean but pretty dirty at the same time (that make sense to anyone?) I don't do metal anymore but like to keep bass sounding (well again) DIRTY. Sansamp a good bet?[/quote] You need some 10s and a valve amp man - I keep tellin ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmansky Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote name='budget bassist' post='392011' date='Jan 26 2009, 06:58 PM']I'm thinking about selling my tobias and my current amp head (running an ashdown EB180) which should give me £400, enough for a decent used head i think. I've seen markbass LMII heads going for that much and they seem really good, i've tried the jeff berlin combo a couple of time and it sounded really good, but how would it sound in the mix for metal? I'm after something really punchy that will cut through and really bring out the growl in my warwick and musicmans. Any other suggestions? I was also thinking something along the likes of a GK 700RB-II, an ampeg SVT-3 pro or an ampeg B-2R, B-2RE or a B-1RE. Also, would any/all of the above sound significantly better through my ashdown MAG 115 and 210T cabs until i can scrape together enough money to upgrade them too?[/quote] why dont you try a abm evo11 head.pick one up on flea bay and have change left over towards some cabs.very close soundwise to an ampeg imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faz_man Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote name='jmesa' post='396584' date='Feb 1 2009, 01:13 AM']You need some 10s and a valve amp man - I keep tellin ya! [/quote] Untill I get someone to carry my rig around for me I'm not getting a 400+ lol. With a 2 x "15 and 2 Thumbs a 400+ would be, less the straw, more the concrete block that breaks the camels back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmesa Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote name='faz_man' post='396704' date='Feb 1 2009, 11:52 AM']Untill I get someone to carry my rig around for me I'm not getting a 400+ lol.[/quote] Surely the 6000 compressors you have in your rack weight about the same ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) [quote name='bassmansky' post='396641' date='Feb 1 2009, 10:15 AM']why dont you try a abm evo11 head.pick one up on flea bay and have change left over towards some cabs.very close soundwise to an ampeg imo.[/quote] I'm not too fond of them, if only for the strangely laid out EQ, and i'm not sure i want to go ashdown again. I would like something rack mountable too. Edited February 1, 2009 by budget bassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faz_man Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote name='jmesa' post='396707' date='Feb 1 2009, 11:59 AM']Surely the 6000 compressors you have in your rack weight about the same ? [/quote] 3000 of those are used to compress the rest of my rig so that I don't need a fleet of transit vans to transport it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIM Basses Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Why not the new Hartke LH1000 [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hartke-Hydrive-LH1000-Bass-Guitar-Amplifier-Head-Amp_W0QQitemZ180318817434QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item180318817434&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hartke-Hydrive-LH100...A1%7C240%3A1318[/url] £ 349 new thats got to be a go deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 it doesn't seem amazingly versatile, and compared to some other stuff in the price range (aside from the masses of power), it doesn't really impress me, whereas i could get a GK 700RBII for £400 from soundslive and that would be able to do so much more. Convince me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIM Basses Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Looks like the GK would be the best amp for ya bud, You could get yourself a Sansamp PSA1 [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290292077854"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=290292077854[/url] And a good poweramp off ebay, so many opions for metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 You reckon? I'm not sure i'll even bother with a sansamp, i'm not really into dirty overdriven sounds, just muds up the mix i think. Unless there's more to it than that? I'm still wondering what some of the other cheap amps like the warwick ProFet 5.1 sounds like... I've got a few weeks to mull it over anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylager Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote name='budget bassist' post='397034' date='Feb 1 2009, 05:32 PM']it doesn't seem amazingly versatile, and compared to some other stuff in the price range (aside from the masses of power), it doesn't really impress me, whereas i could get a GK 700RBII for £400 from soundslive and that would be able to do so much more. Convince me [/quote] Less is more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote name='budget bassist' post='397109' date='Feb 1 2009, 07:02 PM']How so?[/quote] If you want get the sound you want then what do you need any more features for? Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 well, a compressor would be nice, and more than just a 3 band EQ, a 7 band graphic would be nice. That hartke just doesn't appeal to me that much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote name='budget bassist' post='397125' date='Feb 1 2009, 07:27 PM']well, a compressor would be nice, and more than just a 3 band EQ, a 7 band graphic would be nice. That hartke just doesn't appeal to me that much...[/quote] Fair enough. But someone else may neither want nor need a compressor nor another 4 bands of EQ to get their sound, in which case the ultra simple preamp on the Hartke would save them money which can instead be spent on more power. For instance I've yet to come across an amp with an onboard compressor I like and after years of having a four band EQ with the two middle bands semi-parametric and almost never using it I've found I'm generally happy with little or no EQ. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Well, each to their own, i was just saying that the hydrive didn't really jump out at me, but like you say, it might for someone else. Valve preamp doesn't really mean much to me either, considering you can get some brilliant sounding solid state amps these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 [quote name='budget bassist' post='397157' date='Feb 1 2009, 07:50 PM']Valve preamp doesn't really mean much to me either, considering you can get some brilliant sounding solid state amps these days.[/quote] Again, all comes down to personal taste. I've never come across a solidstate preamp that can sound like the Fender Dual Showman type valve preamp with passive EQ as found in the LH500/1000, the Alembic preamps, the Kern (with a few tweaks), The BBE B-Max T, etc etc. I use a solidstate preamp that sounds nothing like them but I still believe it's a great sound for tons of players. Look at it another way - the GK 700RBII doesn't do more, it does the same - it makes your bass loud enough to drive speakers loud. So do all amps. It's just a question of which amp has the right tones for your tastes plus the right balance of cost, size, weight and price. I think the GK heads are great for metal because they have so much grrrr but if you have a bass with loads of natural grrr or an overdrive pedal that you like to run through most of the time then the LH1000 gives you crazy power for the money. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budget bassist Posted February 1, 2009 Author Share Posted February 1, 2009 Hmm yeah i do see your point, though i think 1000W is a bit excessive, i used 180W on stage with no problems at all, i can't see how you could use 1000W of power without being a pro on a HUGE stage. Plus i'd be scared of blowing my speakers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velvetkevorkian Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 You can always turn it down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 If you play in a low tuning you can use huge amounts of power without producing much apparent volume. You need the headroom for detuned metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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