CameronJ Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, Davebassics said: So it's not a helix stomp competitor then No, it looks a bit like a full Helix competitor with similar-ish I/O to a Helix LT and dimensions very similar to an HX Effects. To be fair, over the last couple of years I’ve read loads of posts online from Helix users dreaming of a Helix without the expression pedal attached, since it seems a lot of folk rarely use it. Line 6 would never make it as it would potentially confuse an already well-populated product line. Re: price, check out the below from Neural’s website: €1599 total! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 https://neuraldsp.com/quad-cortex?fbclid=IwAR1yn3-zOlArMnGPqBJxDAzHEgio-djRGLnoCsRtCLKAEo53o2tvmwB3YmE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Must check full thread before posting. And format it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cattytown Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Not sure now is the safest time to pre-order a high ticket device from Europe, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Question I’d like to know or find out. It can have 2 to 4 rigs. Can each instrument have their own footswitch/midi switch so they can do their own thing away from the central unit. I can see how this works on big gigs with all gear off stage and nothing on stage everything timelined and midi switched, but if a band wants to share and have their own switches is that possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Wonderful integration and the logical step in this type of unit. I’m not in the market but damn it does look pretty well thought out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjelkeman Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Felt this was coming, so sold my HX Stomp, which I really liked, but it was like a gateway drug. Until this comes out I’ll make do with a B7KU and an X7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) There's one glaring omission there... When are they available? I'd want to know that before parting with anything... Edit: September 2020 shipping. Hmm... I think I'll pass in the meantime, but it looks like a helix killer to me! Edited January 11, 2020 by Bigwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I was guessing earlier in this thread that the step up in processing power from the Stomp to the QC would be equivalent to going from a Zoom MS-60B to a Stomp. That's actually not going to be far off: Doug from DG has confirmed that the QC has "twice the CPU of a Helix Floor/Rack/Fractal AX8/FM3" in a Helix HX sized package. In other words 4x the processing power of the Stomp. Add in touch screen UI, profiling like AxeFx, Kemper and live usability of 10 stomp switches and there's a LOT to like about this! It's going to be one to keep an eye out for as will NAMM 2021 when the competition, whom I suspect will have been a little blindsided by this, will have had time to react. Never been a better time to be into multifx - amazing just how much mulits have developed over just the past 3 years since the launch of the Zoom B3n and Helix was still in development in Line6's labs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Off topic and all that, but if I wanted to get all profile-y can I do it without spending the best part of £1.5K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, owen said: Off topic and all that, but if I wanted to get all profile-y can I do it without spending the best part of £1.5K? A used Kemper. Other than that, no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Well, at least I know now. Ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 https://neuraldsp.com 100 squids per plug in cheap as chips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I've been itching to tell people about this for so long! Doug has dedicated his life to this for two years, it looks incredible. The idea of going full digital is scary, but this just looks fantastic and the price is fantastic. Who knew i'd be a fan, eh? It's only usually Darkglass stuff I like..... 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjelkeman Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) Edited January 12, 2020 by bjelkeman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I see the stats on its processing power and how it’s more powerful than most things out there, but one thing it didn’t say is how it stacks up against the Fractal Axe FX III. That has a 2Ghz chip as well and I think 4Gb RAM, but I can’t find anything to side by side them. Also I can’t find the actual head to head specs on the FM3, but I am aware that has the guts of the AxeFXIII to all intensive purposes and 4x12 blocks so 48 scenes. @Kev you have any knowledge on this for a shoot out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Whilst I love my LT, it doesn’t fully fulfill my amp/fx needs, so I use a number of pedals as well. This will be the same, great at some sounds but not all. Can’t say I am GASsing yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just gonna leave this here - Q&A livestream with Doug Castro scheduled for tomorrow evening: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, HazBeen said: Whilst I love my LT, it doesn’t fully fulfill my amp/fx needs, so I use a number of pedals as well. This will be the same, great at some sounds but not all. Helix is a step up from Zoom, though, and processing power IMO plays a big factor in the realism of the sims and how almost indistinguishable from dedicated pedals they become. For me - if this nails synth and octave up with no latency, then we will be getting close to a multifx that does everything. If it doesn't, my much(!) cheaper Helix won't be making way. I do love the UI on this as per bjelkeman's YouTube clip above - that really is a killer feature in making this very usable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazBeen Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Helix is a step up from Zoom, though, and processing power IMO plays a big factor in the realism of the sims and how almost indistinguishable from dedicated pedals they become. For me - if this nails synth and octave up with no latency, then we will be getting close to a multifx that does everything. If it doesn't, my much(!) cheaper Helix won't be making way. I do love the UI on this as per bjelkeman's YouTube clip above - that really is a killer feature in making this very usable. I will let others buy it first and then see. Personally I am starting to think that an all-in-one solution actually is not possible, at least re the synth and octave sounds I am looking for. But, open to being surprised and amazed.. Edited January 12, 2020 by HazBeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 36 minutes ago, HazBeen said: I will let others buy it first and then see. Personally I am starting to think that an all-in-one solution actually is not possible, at least re the synth and octave sounds I am looking for. But, open to being surprised and amazed.. Yup, when a multifx nails an OC2 and an FI, the game will have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) I’d be surprised if there weren’t at least a couple of decent monophonic octavers (and maybe even a poly) in the unit but as we know, tastes in octavers can be very subjective/personal. I personally doubt there will be a ground breaking synth engine in the Quad Cortex. Look at Darkglass/Neural products thus far: distortions, compressors, amps/cabs etc. but zero synth stuff. The fact is, synth effects for guitar and bass are still a small niche area of the market and there’s a good chance that for Doug Castro and his team, building a comprehensive software synth engine to compete with the likes of Source Audio C4 and Future Impact simply isn’t worth the time and effort given the realistic impact on Quad Cortex sales at present. Not saying it’s impossible but precedent tells me it’s very very unlikely, especially at launch. Quad Cortex has serious processing power under the hood though, so one can argue it would be foolish for the Neural folks not spend time creating some more ambitious effect types for the platform. Time will tell! In the meantime, I’d happily stick a Source Audio C4 into one of the FX loops. Edited January 12, 2020 by CameronJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronJ Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 In other news, regarding the sturdiness of the rotary footswitches, check this photo out: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 It’s a screenshot of a video, it’s not BS 😂 oh, and pre-ordered. Gulp. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjelkeman Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Kev said: It’s a screenshot of a video, it’s not BS 😂 oh, and pre-ordered. Gulp. Yup. So did I. And apparently 980 others joined us. Dipoug said in another forum that they have preorders for 98% of the first batch already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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