P-T-P Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 I've downloaded IE8 (Release Candidate 1) to my office computer to check that our sites work as they should with what will likely be the first full release of the new browser. Just an FYi for you guys here, unless basschat.co.uk is added to the IE8 RC1 compatability mode, adding new posts (and presumably replying etc., I will check) doesn't work. Once you click on the "Post New Topic" link, the page starts to load but then as IE8 tries to correct the code, it all goes a bit wrong and you get a blank page. As I understand it, the idea is that IE8 will take code from older web pages and interpret it in such a way that it displays in accordance with current standards. Clearly this isn't working with basschat.co.uk There is a compatability view that allows the code to be interpreted the normal way. It can be activated from the "Tools" menu. Either click the unchecked "Compatability View" option, which will add basschat.co.uk to the list of sites using the feature, or select, "Compatability View Settings" to open a window which gives the option of displaying all sites using the compatability feature. Not sure whether the root cause is the code on these pages or the new IE8 features, but just thought you should be aware as it's expected that the IE8 RC1 I am using is expected to be the first formal release of the new browser so you may get a few people encountering this problem depending on how they set-up these options during install. Quote
P-T-P Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 okay, "Fast Reply" works but "Add Reply" doesn't. Quote
Tracer Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 [url="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/08/27/introducing-compatibility-view.aspx"]IEBlog[/url] Not sure if you've seen this yet - and I admit that I haven't really looked into it too much (standards compliance Nazi here, so we should be alright ; ) - but it seems to be saying that you can force IE8 into quirks mode from the page using various combinations of DOCTYPEs and a new META tag. But yeah, might be worth a glance. Quote
Buzz Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 I suspect it's IE8 being sh*t quite frankly, as there's a number of standards compliant browsers (FF, Opera, Safari I think, etc...) that work just fine with the boards. Sounds like a return to the days when you had to have two sets of code in a webpage, one to handle IE and it's quirks and another for everyone else. Quote
tauzero Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 [quote name='Buzz' post='394613' date='Jan 29 2009, 02:49 PM']I suspect it's IE8 being sh*t quite frankly, as there's a number of standards compliant browsers (FF, Opera, Safari I think, etc...) that work just fine with the boards. Sounds like a return to the days when you had to have two sets of code in a webpage, one to handle IE and it's quirks and another for everyone else.[/quote] Only now it will be three, one for IE7, one for IE8, and one for proper browsers. Quote
Machines Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 The problem will affect all boards using this software in that case. I'm sure updates will be released and applied as the need arises - which will be some time. Quote
Currrls Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Basically, everyone should just switch to firefox... Quote
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 [quote name='tauzero' post='394620' date='Jan 29 2009, 02:52 PM']Only now it will be three, one for IE7, one for IE8, and one for proper browsers.[/quote] Assuming MSIE6 will finally die. Looking at the stats for some of the sites I have developed, I see that people are still using that old heap of sh*te. Quote
hubrad Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Hmm. I'm stuck with IE6 as I use Win2000 Prof - nice and stable but lost support from MS. They're pulling support from WinXP in a while.. anyone think that'll give them time to iron out all the Vista incompatibilities? Plucking up courage to switch OS to Linux or just get my hand deep in my pocket and buy a Mac! Quote
Lemuel Beam Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 [quote name='hubrad' post='395690' date='Jan 30 2009, 07:59 PM']Hmm. I'm stuck with IE6 as I use Win2000 Prof - nice and stable but lost support from MS. They're pulling support from WinXP in a while.. anyone think that'll give them time to iron out all the Vista incompatibilities? Plucking up courage to switch OS to Linux or just get my hand deep in my pocket and buy a Mac![/quote] Linux is very friendly these days - and there is massive community support, especially for the popular distros.. jump in!! Lem (currently running Ubuntu 7.10) Quote
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 [quote name='hubrad' post='395690' date='Jan 30 2009, 07:59 PM']Hmm. I'm stuck with IE6 as I use Win2000 Prof - nice and stable but lost support from MS. They're pulling support from WinXP in a while.. anyone think that'll give them time to iron out all the Vista incompatibilities? Plucking up courage to switch OS to Linux or just get my hand deep in my pocket and buy a Mac![/quote] Firefox 3 runs on Win2000 - it installs without replacing IE6 if you just want to try it without committing to it. [url="http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/system-requirements.html"]http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/syste...quirements.html[/url] Vista will never be fixed. When Windows7 comes out I expect M$ will try to erase the memory that Vista ever existed like they did with WinME. Quote
tauzero Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 [quote name='hubrad' post='395690' date='Jan 30 2009, 07:59 PM']Hmm. I'm stuck with IE6 as I use Win2000 Prof - nice and stable but lost support from MS. They're pulling support from WinXP in a while.. anyone think that'll give them time to iron out all the Vista incompatibilities?[/quote] I think they'll have a job pulling support from XP. A lot of organisations are going to be reluctant to move off it. In business terms, there's no advantage moving forwards (in fact, there was probably no advantage in moving to XP from 2k) as all the flashy bits don't actually enhance productivity. Quote
Machines Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 My work PC is lumbered with IE6 - freezes on a lot of websites. I could stick Firefox on but there's software auditing. Quote
Buzz Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 [quote name='hubrad' post='395690' date='Jan 30 2009, 07:59 PM']Hmm. I'm stuck with IE6 as I use Win2000 Prof - nice and stable but lost support from MS. They're pulling support from WinXP in a while.. anyone think that'll give them time to iron out all the Vista incompatibilities? Plucking up courage to switch OS to Linux or just get my hand deep in my pocket and buy a Mac![/quote] They're not pulling support for XP till at least 2012, if not 2015. They got shouted at by big businesses after Fista failed to be a viable update and there was no problems with XP. Quote
Machines Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 Most people do. I think IE has at least 75% market share. The average web user doesn't care about enhanced browsing features, they are more likely to just want to update their facebook and go on eBay. Quote
waynepunkdude Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Use IE for porn that way the other half doesn't notice the history deleted...... Quote
P-T-P Posted February 2, 2009 Author Posted February 2, 2009 [quote name='phatmonkey' post='397241' date='Feb 1 2009, 08:54 PM']1. Internet Explorer 43.79% 2. Firefox 41.00% 3. Safari 10.99% 4. Chrome 2.01% 5. Opera 1.34%[/quote] Microsoft Internet Explorer 67.42% Firefox 21.60% Safari 8.33% Chrome 1.12% Opera 0.70% Netscape 0.58% Mozilla 0.07% Opera Mini 0.06% Playstation 0.04% ACCESS NetFront 0.02% Blazer 0.02% Microsoft Pocket Internet Explorer 0.01% ANT Galio 0.00% WebTV 0.00% Konqueror 0.00% Lotus Notes 0.00% iCab 0.00% BlackBerry 0.00% According to these people [url="http://www.netapplications.com"]http://www.netapplications.com[/url] Quote
stingrayfan Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 [quote name='P-T-P' post='394392' date='Jan 29 2009, 10:53 AM']Once you click on the "Post New Topic" link, the page starts to load but then as IE8 tries to correct the code, it all goes a bit wrong and you get a blank page.[/quote] Sounds like Vista all over again. Why don't they test this stuff properly before releasing it? Quote
Buzz Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='397501' date='Feb 2 2009, 07:14 AM']Use IE for porn that way the other half doesn't notice the history deleted......[/quote] That could possibly be the most stupid thing I've heard in quite a while. Quote
waynepunkdude Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 [quote name='Buzz' post='401404' date='Feb 5 2009, 07:34 PM']That could possibly be the most stupid thing I've heard in quite a while.[/quote] Why? Quote
Machines Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 [quote name='P-T-P' post='397953' date='Feb 2 2009, 03:21 PM']According to these people [url="http://www.netapplications.com"]http://www.netapplications.com[/url][/quote] I think phatmonkey's stats were generated from the Basschat server . Quote
Buzz Posted February 8, 2009 Posted February 8, 2009 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='401713' date='Feb 6 2009, 06:23 AM']Why?[/quote] IE (in various incantations) is full of holes, runs scripts, like activex etc..... Free porn sites are notorious for hosting nasties (not always directly, can be via adverts and such, inc popups). Just use the profiles function in FF or Opera (or any other browser) and run things like the NoScript extension. Granted, I've yet to find a way to directly access the profiles in FF3, but it was there in FF2. Quote
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