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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Modulus-Graphite-6-String-Bass/333490033142?hash=item4da58e11f6:g:Ui0AAOSw2VdeICuR
 

This seller appears to list items on an auction with no reserve, then cancels the sale once ended and re-lists for much higher than the winning auction price. Some of the feedback is hilarious. Shame as it’s a nice, old non-trussrod Modulus but I wouldn’t touch this with a barge pole.

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On 23/01/2020 at 18:55, FDC484950 said:

then cancels the sale once ended and re-lists for much higher than the winning auction price.

It's a way to manipulate "value". If you use "sold items" in the search filters you'll see it's a fairly common practise.

 

Fairly stupid practise when it gets you 77% feedback 😂

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I put a bid on this during it's first 'run', it sold for £1020, then it was almost immediately re-listed. I messaged the seller and he said "he was messed around by the buyer" (obviously BS) so I said "OK, I'll be happy to pay the £1020", and to that I got no reply! The guy clearly bailed as he thought he'd get more. Douche. 

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This was a common practice I witnessed in my early ebay days of the Noughties. Guys 'testing the waters' then pulling the listing then re-listing at a starting price that reflected the final bid of the previous listing.

Another thing that pizzez me off is shill biding. Late one night, got into a bidding war with one(?) guy and lost. Next day, item reappeared, again with a figure closer to the final bid.

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Feedback From When  
Negative feedback rating con cancelled sale after payment and relisted at inflated price recommend avoid Buyer: 
1***4 ( 2675Red star icon for Feedback score between 1,000 to 4,999) 
During past month Feedback conversation
  REVOX B77 MK 11 HIGH SPEED HALF TRACK, 1/4 inch OPEN REEL STUDIO RECORDER (#333481946913) £373.00 View Item  
Detailed item information is not available for the following items because the Feedback is over 90 days old.
Negative feedback rating Auction cancelled because winning bid wasn't enough, CON Man avoid avoid avoid Buyer: 
n***k ( 1286Red star icon for Feedback score between 1,000 to 4,999) 
During past year Feedback conversation
  4x2 treated timber (#333205408154) £41.00
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Note that he may be offering you postage, however there is no case, so it’s highly likely not to be covered if damaged/lost in transit. EBay may side with you, but it’ll be a faff. Personally it’s just not worth the risk, some of his feedback states no response after payment. The whole ad rings alarm bells to me!

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Seller also listed this which ended 23 Jan with a 'winning bid' of £1420; it was then immediately relisted at £1500 on 24th, then removed as no longer available; and has now been listed again (under a 'new' auction) at £1499 :-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaydee-Supernatural-Custom-Bass-guitar-Fretless-/333482328150?hash=item4da5188056%3Ag%3AM~kAAOSwM81eIIFa&nma=true&si=beP3mhQgXJnIMxjwRxlDaWaVNFs%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333489962785?ViewItem=&item=333489962785

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaydee-Supernatural-Custom-Bass-guitar-Fretless/333498681980

.... I'm not sure if this IS a genuine JD / Sn Custom FL4 (?), but I did ask re. the sale/relists and was told :-

New message from: robynjp (491Turquoise Star)

I wish it had ! I had 3 items all bid on , won and then can’t get in touch with buyer

I would accept £1400 but I’d preferred outside of eBay fees , you can have my address , phone etc etc Iv got quite a bit of things to get rid of and so far Ebay has bee painful

 

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On 30/01/2020 at 11:21, eubassix said:

Seller also listed this which ended 23 Jan with a 'winning bid' of £1420; it was then immediately relisted at £1500 on 24th, then removed as no longer available; and has now been listed again (under a 'new' auction) at £1499 :-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaydee-Supernatural-Custom-Bass-guitar-Fretless-/333482328150?hash=item4da5188056%3Ag%3AM~kAAOSwM81eIIFa&nma=true&si=beP3mhQgXJnIMxjwRxlDaWaVNFs%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333489962785?ViewItem=&item=333489962785

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaydee-Supernatural-Custom-Bass-guitar-Fretless/333498681980

.... I'm not sure if this IS a genuine JD / Sn Custom FL4 (?), but I did ask re. the sale/relists and was told :-

New message from: robynjp (491Turquoise Star)

I wish it had ! I had 3 items all bid on , won and then can’t get in touch with buyer

I would accept £1400 but I’d preferred outside of eBay fees , you can have my address , phone etc etc Iv got quite a bit of things to get rid of and so far Ebay has bee painful

 

I thought eBay had algorithms which picked up on Sellers trying to deal outside of it?

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It is a shame as I had number 9 made in 1990 (or was it 91) - like this, a bit battered, no truss rod, but with a zebrano top, sounded fabulous. I still have some studio recordings and it really cut through. If I could collect I might give it a punt but I suspect 3 hours into the train ride I’d get message saying it’s no longer for sale!

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  • 3 weeks later...

.... both back up on ebay (again.... 4th, 5th time?...) :-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Modulus-Graphite-6-String-Bass/333490033142?hash=item4da58e11f6:g:GZYAAOSwgPReTp3-

Modulus @ £1100 BIN/BO

https://www.ebay.co.uk/bfl/viewbids/333521304357?item=333521304357&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565

JD (?) currently @ £900 (30 bids, from a £1 start) / Reserve not Met

 

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