Schaller S Locks.?

[bubinga5]

Im looking for a set and these look interesting.They come in a lovely little perspex box too.  Anyone got a set.? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Schaller-Strap-Locks-Guitar-S-Lock/dp/B07BSKH9ZS/ref=sr_1_6?crid=291JMI4ILXGH7&keywords=schaller%2Bstrap%2Blocks&qid=1579808804&sprefix=schaller%2B%2Caps%2C163&sr=8-6&th=1

[kevin_lindsay]

I bought a set last week. 

They seem really sturdy, and the thicker washer type affair means securing your strap to the button is an easier (and more secure) method than onghe original units. 

[Frank Blank]

One of my ACGs (love saying that) has Schallers, so I got exactly that set from Amazon. Really sturdy and secure and, as you so rightly point out, very nice Perspex box, can’t rate them highly enough.

[ambient]

I’ve always preferred the Dunlop. I had the screw on thing fall off a Schaller strap lock once. It had been on really tight to begin with, but had loosened over time. 

[chris_b]

11 minutes ago, ambient said:

I’ve always preferred the Dunlop. I had the screw on thing fall off a Schaller strap lock once. It had been on really tight to begin with, but had loosened over time. 

Rehearsing with a guitarist last week and the Schaller strap lock on his Strat worked lose.

It's obviously a feature!!

[ambient]

31 minutes ago, chris_b said:

Rehearsing with a guitarist last week and the Schaller strap lock on his Strat worked lose.

It's obviously a feature!!

Yep. I stopped using them and switched to the Dunlop, they’re a lot better. Someone said you should check them each time, but you really shouldn’t have to, at least in my opinion.

[Woodinblack]

I have a combination of Shallers and Dunlops, after an ACG came with a dunlop. Not ideal situation really!

I like the dunlops in that you can still use a normal strap, but went to put some on the latest ibanez, and the dunlop screw wouldn't fit. 

I don't know what the difference in security is between the Shaller and the S's. 

[anzoid]

Switched to Schaller S locks recently on two different basses (and will be adding them to the one due in soon :D) and the thick locking nut/washer that goes on the strap also has a grub screw so you can tighten it up against the thread. Hasn't budged so far. There's also a hole across one edge of the washer that you can poke the allen key through to use as leverage to really tighten things up. Overall, quite impressed. Slightly less impressed by the bit that goes on the bass which is all in one with the thread attached to the button and an allen key shaped hole for installing. Feels a bit pointless and like a potential weak point, however, ordinary Schaller strap buttons would work anyway, so you can mix 'n' match.

Overall - a worthy upgrade for the strap bit, less so for the bass bit.

[Hellzero]

There are all the answers, watch the video.

 

[Bassfinger]

Is it just me who finds the Schaller system great, but inexplicably expensive? I use Dunlop jobs for that reason.  Very decent quality copies are about £6 a pair, and shopping about gets you genuine for 15 sheets or so if you're canny.

Edited January 24, 2020 by Bassfinger

[Woodinblack]

11 minutes ago, anzoid said:

Switched to Schaller S locks recently on two different basses (and will be adding them to the one due in soon :D) and the thick locking nut/washer that goes on the strap also has a grub screw so you can tighten it up against the thread.

ok, so that is the key difference to stop the tendency of a nut to turn. Seems as it is longer now, so odd they don't include a couple of washers which would be a bit better. Although a grub screw on a thread might damage it.

11 minutes ago, anzoid said:

 Slightly less impressed by the bit that goes on the bass which is all in one with the thread attached to the button and an allen key shaped hole for installing.

All in one seems a downside, as every screw I have replaced in a bass was a different size!

 

[Woodinblack]

1 minute ago, Bassfinger said:

Is it just me who finds the Schaller system great, but inexplicably expensive? I use Dunlop jobs for that reason.  Very decent quality copies are about £6 a pair.

You can get shaller copies cheap too. The dunlops are the same prices as the shaller.

[Cuzzie]

Great strap locks, improvements are better, had no worries and I followed instructions!

[Teebs]

I have the 'S' locks on a bass I use at open mic every week (4 hours session per week - straplocks have done 112 hrs plus home practice ), and on my Yamaha - I really like them & have had no problems at all.

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[Shambo]

Just to offer an opposing view, I found them too big and chunky.

I tried them but switched to those rubber washer thingies which are much less invasive.

They undoubtedly do the job for which they are designed though.

[ead]

I have gravitated towards Dunlop Dual Design straplocks as they ended up being on the majority of my basses.

I might even have a spare chrome set of the knocking about but I'd need to check.

[la bam]

I use the hack of a cheap (2p) rubber washer, pulled over the basses strap bolt and covering the top of the strap hole. Works a treat.

I like the idea of proper strap locks but dont trust myself fitting stuff like that.

[acidbass]

10 hours ago, ambient said:

I’ve always preferred the Dunlop. I had the screw on thing fall off a Schaller strap lock once. It had been on really tight to begin with, but had loosened over time. 

Agreed.  I would never buy Schaller again after this, Dunlop Straploks are a much better choice IMO as they don't have any moving parts at all.

[ambient]

1 hour ago, la bam said:

I use the hack of a cheap (2p) rubber washer, pulled over the basses strap bolt and covering the top of the strap hole. Works a treat.

I like the idea of proper strap locks but dont trust myself fitting stuff like that.

I’ve never liked fitting the body part, I worry about the screw splitting the wood. It’s probably very unlikely, but I’m rubbish at anything involving tools, so prefer to get it done for me. 

[ambient]

Another benefit with the Dunlop, you can use a normal strap with them. Useful if you forget to take your strap with you and need to borrow one.

[Muppet]

Are these newer ones backwards compatible with the older ones, so if you have a strap fitted with the older style locks will they fit the newer style buttons? 

[BigRedX]

34 minutes ago, acidbass said:

Agreed.  I would never buy Schaller again after this, Dunlop Straploks are a much better choice IMO as they don't have any moving parts at all.

That's not true. There's a spring-loaded ball-bearing mechanism that holds the two parts together. And that's what failed within 3 months on the only pair I've owned. On the other hand I have Schaller StrapLocks from the mid 80s that are still functioning perfectly.

There is IME more room for user error with the Schaller StrapLocks, but once you have worked out what needs to be done to fit each part securely to the instrument and strap, they work perfectly. 

In the end it's each to their own. We stick with what we know and what works for us. None of the methods are 100% perfect or fool-proof. Having tried all the different methods, the Schallers work for me. I can appreciate that they are not for everyone.

[la bam]

This is what I do. Keeps everything super secure. Nice tight fitting. Covers the slit on the strap which allows you to put it over the bass pin fitting, so it cant come loose. Cost 2p.

 

 

[Frank Blank]

1 hour ago, Muppet said:

Are these newer ones backwards compatible with the older ones, so if you have a strap fitted with the older style locks will they fit the newer style buttons? 

Yes.

[urbanx]

I've got a thread here about my strap lock woes. It's got so severe I replaced my Jags screws with M6 Roofing bolts. https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/343533-i-keep-destroying-straplocks/#comments

I've now got the S's on my Mustang. The screw has worked loose from the bass a couple of times, despite copious amounts of superglue. But cant fault them as the same is still happening on my Jag too! (I really chuck myself around on stage!)