AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 00:04, Ricky 4000 said: Me too. Andy, I don't like the old guitarist much, either! 😛 What you want, is a younger Andy Summers 👍 Expand The old guitarist was just fine. The whole reason we’re looking for a new guitarist was that he’d left for Birmingham with a girl. He’s messaged tonight to say that he’s still in Manchester as covid has cocked up his move. plot twist. Quote
Ricky 4000 Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 00:43, AndyTravis said: The old guitarist was just fine. Expand Ah, what I meant was -- I totally like him. 😶 On 30/07/2020 at 00:43, AndyTravis said: The whole reason we’re looking for a new guitarist was that he’d left for Birmingham with a girl. He’s messaged tonight to say that he’s still in Manchester as covid has cocked up his move. plot twist. Expand Oooo! 😗 Quote
AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 It could all go belly up. i was exasperated with other things tonight too. we’ll see. Quote
Dom in Dorset Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 01:06, AndyTravis said: It could all go belly up. i was exasperated with other things tonight too. we’ll see. Expand Posted at 2.30am you must be frustrated! I'm frustrated! I only started reading this thread last week I'm hooked. Quote
Fozza Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 Me too! Better than any soap on telly, this. Hope everything turns out OK in the end, Andy. 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 I’ve told the lads this morning to get 3 or 4 more lined up - ex guitarist as a maybe. not that I really want to get into it. Quote
mcnach Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 ah, what a shame... it sounded so promising from that recording! Quote
AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 12:37, mcnach said: ah, what a shame... it sounded so promising from that recording! Expand Upon reflection; he’s a lovely lovely guy, really easygoing and smart. He has a few cool riffs, but his main complaint last night was that he wasn’t prepared (we’d actually been due to see another guy). I think the inflexibility - we were literally jamming ideas...nothing to prepare. I dunno, Nearly there, but not quite. And yeah his recording was great generally. But we exchanged a few more ideas over the last week and I got that sinking feeling. 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 Monday. Mike 7-8.30 Andy 8.30-10 interestingly...have just mixed their takes. Doesnt work as well. But as we know, the remote recording idea means feck all. 1 Quote
PatrickJ Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) On 30/07/2020 at 13:45, AndyTravis said: He has a few cool riffs, but his main complaint last night was that he wasn’t prepared (we’d actually been due to see another guy). I think the inflexibility - we were literally jamming ideas...nothing to prepare. I dunno, Nearly there, but not quite. And yeah his recording was great generally. But we exchanged a few more ideas over the last week and I got that sinking feeling. Expand I guess I can understand from his perspective why he might feel a little hard done by, however, after listening to the EP you guys are neither a RHCP clone nor your typical pub covers outfit. It's an originals band and if the creative process is to get in the studio and jam ideas out then he needs to be comfortable with that. If he's not, or it's just a rehash of frusciante riffs then he's just not the right fit. The other thing I noted from both the audition piece and EP was the bass is going to be a very prominent instrument and guitar needs to sit back a bit. I thought your old guitarist did that well - I'm switching to Team Mike, he did that too!, Edited July 30, 2020 by PatrickJ 2 Quote
mcnach Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 13:45, AndyTravis said: Upon reflection; he’s a lovely lovely guy, really easygoing and smart. He has a few cool riffs, but his main complaint last night was that he wasn’t prepared (we’d actually been due to see another guy). I think the inflexibility - we were literally jamming ideas...nothing to prepare. I dunno, Nearly there, but not quite. And yeah his recording was great generally. But we exchanged a few more ideas over the last week and I got that sinking feeling. Expand This is the guy who got back to you with a recording in 3 hours, right? That suggested he was able to come up with cool parts, but maybe he needs a bit of time to work out parts by himself and is not used to just jamming? Maybe his muse was not in that evening, we all get off days. Just trying to find a reason to give him another try... although if the rest of the band really did not like his playing, maybe they're right (but we all know that their judgement cannot be as good as the bass player's... ) Quote
AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 17:03, mcnach said: This is the guy who got back to you with a recording in 3 hours, right? That suggested he was able to come up with cool parts, but maybe he needs a bit of time to work out parts by himself and is not used to just jamming? Maybe his muse was not in that evening, we all get off days. Just trying to find a reason to give him another try... although if the rest of the band really did not like his playing, maybe they're right (but we all know that their judgement cannot be as good as the bass player's... ) Expand I’ll level with you - his first rehearsal was pretty crap. Moments of “oh cool...” So I wanted to push on and see if it was just nerves. The lads were “he might be alright” - and then last night he noodled aimlessly and tunelessly. And as @PatrickJ kindly pointed out - We need something more instant and someone with ideas - not Just an idea... It’s rare I want to walk out of a rehearsal. And instead of “tell you what, give me one more crack and I’ll sort it” I got a gobfull. So...yeah. Quote
steantval Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 17:03, mcnach said: This is the guy who got back to you with a recording in 3 hours, right? That suggested he was able to come up with cool parts, but maybe he needs a bit of time to work out parts by himself and is not used to just jamming? Maybe his muse was not in that evening, we all get off days. Just trying to find a reason to give him another try... although if the rest of the band really did not like his playing, maybe they're right (but we all know that their judgement cannot be as good as the bass player's... ) Expand There were two fundamental errors mentioned on the list, out of tune and out of time, having an off day is no excuse IMO. 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 17:50, steantval said: There were two fundamental errors mentioned on the list, out of tune and out of time, having an off day is no excuse IMO. Expand I think notes can be learned. Feel cannot...and when you throw bad note choice and bad timing together - GAME OVER 😂 Quote
mcnach Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 17:55, AndyTravis said: I think notes can be learned. Feel cannot...and when you throw bad note choice and bad timing together - GAME OVER 😂 Expand True. Years ago I was in a RHCP tribute band and we needed a new singer. The auditions were amazing, for all the wrong reasons. It's incredible how many people think they can sing. The one I remember the best was this guy who was very nice, great attitude, good presence... and not only he could not sing (although, to be fair, it's not like Kiedis is much better ) but his sense of timing and melody was non existent. His phrasing was all over the place, out of key... We finished the first song and our guitarist, ever so polite, smiled and said "well, that was a song... it wasn't THE song, but it was some kind of song". The 'singer' took it as a compliment. We played two more to be sure, and we figured there was no way it would work. You can learn the lyrics if you don't remember them, you can learn many things, but if you don't have a sense for timing... 1 Quote
mcnach Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 17:19, AndyTravis said: I’ll level with you - his first rehearsal was pretty crap. Moments of “oh cool...” So I wanted to push on and see if it was just nerves. The lads were “he might be alright” - and then last night he noodled aimlessly and tunelessly. And as @PatrickJ kindly pointed out - We need something more instant and someone with ideas - not Just an idea... It’s rare I want to walk out of a rehearsal. And instead of “tell you what, give me one more crack and I’ll sort it” I got a gobfull. So...yeah. Expand If you put it like that... yeah, I mean, nope. I find it hilarious when people don't take well being told that you went with someone else. I've only had to block one person, but that was insane... he kept sending us individually messages on FB and collectively in a chat, telling us how we made a mistake not choosing him (guitarist) and that it must be because we were threatened as he was so much better than us (he wasn't very bad, but he had an awful super distorted tone that he would use for everything, no dynamics, no leaving spaces, a real 'guitar hero' -in his mind-) and he kept going. If you ignored him it was worse because he'd get annoyed we were not engaging with his... monologues. As far as I know he may still be messaging us 1 Quote
PatrickJ Posted July 31, 2020 Posted July 31, 2020 On 30/07/2020 at 17:02, AndyTravis said: Monday. Mike 7-8.30 Andy 8.30-10 interestingly...have just mixed their takes. Doesnt work as well. But as we know, the remote recording idea means feck all. Expand I'm keeping my evening clear Monday and will eagerly await the next installment of the602.. the Auditions. 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted July 31, 2020 Author Posted July 31, 2020 On 31/07/2020 at 14:24, PatrickJ said: I'm keeping my evening clear Monday and will eagerly await the next installment of the602.. the Auditions. Expand Not really sure what the craic is as Greater Manchester is in a new local lockdown. Now - we’re not rehearsing in anyone’s house so we should be ok... Quote
AndyTravis Posted August 4, 2020 Author Posted August 4, 2020 Well...24 demos now to be scrapped or developed. looks like I’m the guitarist for EP2. Quote
BreadBin Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) On 04/08/2020 at 17:14, AndyTravis said: looks like I’m the guitarist for EP2. Expand Say what now? 🤔 As well as the bass, or instead of? Edited August 4, 2020 by BreadBin Quote
AndyTravis Posted August 4, 2020 Author Posted August 4, 2020 On 04/08/2020 at 17:15, BreadBin said: Say what now? 🤔 As well as the bass, or instead of? Expand Yeah. I’ll do both Quote
steantval Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) That will be difficult when playing live 🐙 Edited August 4, 2020 by steantval Quote
AndyTravis Posted August 4, 2020 Author Posted August 4, 2020 On 04/08/2020 at 17:28, steantval said: That will be difficult when playing live 🐙 Expand Can you see anyone playing live anytime soon. 1 Quote
steantval Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) On 04/08/2020 at 17:24, AndyTravis said: Yeah. I’ll do both Expand On 04/08/2020 at 17:43, AndyTravis said: Can you see anyone playing live anytime soon. Expand Plenty of time to learn how to play both at the same time. 😀 Edited August 4, 2020 by steantval 1 Quote
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