musicbassman Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Hi all you lovely people. Self explanatory title I hope - I've been looking on the web at all the usual sites but can't find detailed specs for the early Squier JV Precisions - in particular the neck shape/profile and radius. Can anyone help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 http://www.21frets.com/squier_jv/jvprecisionbass.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbassman Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Thanks gareth I certainly know that site - lots of nice pics and info, but not the specific info I'm after, which is neck profile and radius. Or maybe I'm looking in the wrong place ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooky_lowdown Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 The first JVs were replicas / based on the 57 and 62 basses, so I'd look up the original specs for these. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbassman Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Thanks hooky_lowdown I can't find the specs for the original '57 bass, only the modern reissue: So if anyone knows whether either this Fender spec or the original Squier JV spec really does match the '57 original that would be handy to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 All I recall of my JV57P (big Fender logo) is that the nut was 1.75" - never felt comfortable so off it went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 21/02/2020 at 14:13, martthebass said: All I recall of my JV57P (big Fender logo) is that the nut was 1.75" - never felt comfortable so off it went. I think mine was as well. I do recal it being the widest P neck ive ever played. Probably normal For that type of bass, but definitely not as comfortable as other P’s ive owned/own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbassman Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Jeez - are you sure? That's massive. Just measured mine and it's 1and 5/8ths " = about 42mm 1.75" would be about 44.5mm (Mine is 1982 JV57P + big Fender logo, ser no.JV 07768) The whole point of this exercise is to try and establish whether the spec for the later Fujigen P's from the late '80's to early 90's was the same as that used for these early JV Squiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK Jale Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 42.8 here on an August '82... Radius feels actually a touch flatter than on an 85 A-series, but I don't have a gauge alas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, musicbassman said: Jeez - are you sure? That's massive. Just measured mine and it's 1and 5/8ths " = about 42mm 1.75" would be about 44.5mm (Mine is 1982 JV57P + big Fender logo, ser no.JV 07768) The whole point of this exercise is to try and establish whether the spec for the later Fujigen P's from the late '80's to early 90's was the same as that used for these early JV Squiers. Ive seen plenty of P basses with a 44/45mm nut. This is what's put me off them over the years, although most of the time ive just put a jazz neck on them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No lust in Jazz Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I recently read somewhere that Palladino's custom shop model was based on on early 80's JV. If this is the case you could reverse engineer the process and look at the Custom Shop spec. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martthebass Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, musicbassman said: Jeez - are you sure? That's massive. Just measured mine and it's 1and 5/8ths " = about 42mm 1.75" would be about 44.5mm (Mine is 1982 JV57P + big Fender logo, ser no.JV 07768) The whole point of this exercise is to try and establish whether the spec for the later Fujigen P's from the late '80's to early 90's was the same as that used for these early JV Squiers. Mine was a first run big Fender logo 57P two tone burst, single ply white plate bought new in August 82. Definitely 1.75" on that one - don't have the serial though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbassman Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Interesting. I see Ashwood1985 has just put a very early fender logo'd 57P Squier up for sale here and states the nut width is 43mm Also, I've just bought an early '90's Fujigen P from Aidan63 and he states it's 42.25mm at the nut. This is near enough identical in appearance to the JV57, and it will be interesting to compare this directly with my Squier both in terms of sound and playability. I will report back if there's anything interesting or worthy of comment. Thanks to all for your helpful comments. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Well in my case it was just form memory of finding the neck a bit chunky. Could have been the depth. Either way, i found it a bit hard to play. Those JV's are nothing special IME, especially not these days when you can get a lot, lot more for less than the used asking price. Back in the day the necks were the big selling point, but these days everyone has caught up. I really cant see how a bass that cost £199 can go for almost £1000 on some websites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said: Well in my case it was just form memory of finding the neck a bit chunky. Could have been the depth. Either way, i found it a bit hard to play. Those JV's are nothing special IME, especially not these days when you can get a lot, lot more for less than the used asking price. Back in the day the necks were the big selling point, but these days everyone has caught up. I really cant see how a bass that cost £199 can go for almost £1000 on some websites. My experience differs. I had a F logo one - the one for sale here at the moment, as it happens, and still own a slightly later one. They are the best and second best Precision basses I have had through my hands - which I am afraid to report is quite a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Na 20 minutes ago, Paul S said: My experience differs. I had a F logo one - the one for sale here at the moment, as it happens, and still own a slightly later one. They are the best and second best Precision basses I have had through my hands - which I am afraid to report is quite a few. Im not saying the basses are rubbish, but how on earth did they get to £1000 from £199? With so many very, very good bases on the market for so much less i think owning one is just a way to print money. EDIT: Sorry, thats bit off topic. My original point was having owned and gigged oen for a few years, my Squier CV knocks spots off it, and many other P basses ive owned that cost a lot less than £1000. So while they might be 'collectable' that's about it as far as im concerned. We do of course, disagree with that, which is cool. Edited February 25, 2020 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I see two factors at work. Collectability and worth. The Fender logo ones were only a small run and so collectable. Even if they were shite, the fact that there aren't many of them would make them collectable. But, for me, the Fender logo one I owned was better than any other Precision I have tried, including a few USA ones. Add the 'rare and collectable' factor in and that makes £1000 a pretty decent buy. What they cost at the start is irrelevant as far as I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Paul S said: . What they cost at the start is irrelevant as far as I can see. Fair enough, so who sets the cost? Who determined that £1000 is a good price? And why not keep it if its that good? Not trying to start an argument, just replying to your posts as you did with mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 No-one here is arguing. You said in your experience the JV basses are nothing special, my experience is different. The marketplace sets the cost. If you don't want to pay £1000 for a Fender logo JV Squier then there are plenty of folk who do. Not a problem. I had 2 JV Precisions - I kept the second, slightly later but not Fender logo, because I prefered the colour (black, rather than tobacco-burst), the weight(8lbs rather than 9lbs) and the tone (a little edgier). It is not as 'collectable' or worth as much but I prefer it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Well to be fair, i sad nothing special, especially at the price they go for, and added that i wasn't knocking the bass as such, just commenting that for £1000 you can get a lot of bass, so the JV is up there with these basses. Cant think of anything that would make it stand out from the crowd (at this prince point), other than its rep, which was based on it being head and shoulders above the crowd when it was released. Still, if it feels good and sounds good, its got to be worth whatever you pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooky_lowdown Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said: other than its rep, which was based on it being head and shoulders above the crowd when it was released. I don't recall the JVs rep being big in the 80s or even that much in the 90s. It's the 00s when people realised how good these basses are, and price spikes happened. Things are only worth what people are prepared to pay. If you don't think they're worth £1k, then far enough, others may differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, hooky_lowdown said: I don't recall the JVs rep being big in the 80s or even that much in the 90s. It's the 00s when people realised how good these basses are, and price spikes happened. Things are only worth what people are prepared to pay. If you don't think they're worth £1k, then far enough, others may differ. I remember it differently. The prices didnt creep up until later, but it was common knowledge how much of a barging these were, and why, from very earl on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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