dmccombe7 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 After @Bilbo mentioned in another thread that he was transcribing a track from the Bruford One of a Kind album i thought i should maybe upgrade from my vinyl copy to a CD version. Arrived yesterday and i had forgotten what an amazing album it was. This was what got me into listening to Mr Berlin and following his many youtube clips. If only i could play like him Bill Briford - drums Jeff Berlin - bass Dave Stewart - keys Allan Houldsworth - guitar Did manage to see Jeff Berlin with John McLaughlan many years ago and he impressed me a lot live. Just thought i would share part of this happy wee moment in life. Probably not to everyone's taste. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineweasel Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) Great album. Some excellent Allan Holdsworth on here too; I prefer his playing in other people's bands, rather than his solo albums. Edited March 6, 2020 by pineweasel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I saw Holdsworth in a tiny jazz club in Oxford many moons ago. The venue ( Old Fire Station ) downstairs houses about 30 people. Excellent gig though, if you like AH. Just a DB and drums + AH I like his solo stuff. Velvet Darkness is fab and i own it, and for other bands, i have Gong's Gazeuse !! album and Holdsworth excels. Bassist Francis Moze is outstanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 A treat for AH fans and Francis Moze 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, dmccombe7 said: ...Probably not to everyone's taste. Indeed. Much as I like (muchly...) a lot of prog, fusion, jazz rock and much more, this didn't ring any bells at all; not the slightest tinkle. Badly-mixed drums weren't helped by the seemingly endless and pointless slatherings. No points from me, I'm afraid; sorry. Edited March 6, 2020 by Dad3353 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Obviously great playing, but lock me in a room with that on a loop and I would want to kill someone within minutes....🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 This is why Punk happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, MacDaddy said: This is why Punk happened. And not a moment too soon...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I am working on two Berlin/Bruford tunes at the moment: The Abingdon Chasp from OOAK and Lands End off Gradually Going Tornado. These four albums held my attention for years and, for me, represent, Berlin at his best. I always thought JB needed a strong producer and, when he is a sideman, he has the best drawn out of him without the excess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steantval Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, dmccombe7 said: After @Bilbo mentioned in another thread that he was transcribing a track from the Bruford One of a Kind album i thought i should maybe upgrade from my vinyl copy to a CD version. Arrived yesterday and i had forgotten what an amazing album it was. This was what got me into listening to Mr Berlin and following his many youtube clips. If only i could play like him Bill Briford - drums Jeff Berlin - bass Dave Stewart - keys Allan Houldsworth - guitar Did manage to see Jeff Berlin with John McLaughlan many years ago and he impressed me a lot live. Just thought i would share part of this happy wee moment in life. Probably not to everyone's taste. Dave Stewart, that brings back some old prog memories, seen him play in the band called Egg, 29th February 1972, I’m pretty sure he was also in the band Khan. Edited March 6, 2020 by steantval 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGB Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 For me, one of the best albums ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cloud Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, dmccombe7 said: After @Bilbo mentioned in another thread that he was transcribing a track from the Bruford One of a Kind album i thought i should maybe upgrade from my vinyl copy to a CD version. Arrived yesterday and i had forgotten what an amazing album it was. This was what got me into listening to Mr Berlin and following his many youtube clips. If only i could play like him Bill Briford - drums Jeff Berlin - bass Dave Stewart - keys Allan Houldsworth - guitar Did manage to see Jeff Berlin with John McLaughlan many years ago and he impressed me a lot live. Just thought i would share part of this happy wee moment in life. Probably not to everyone's taste. Not everyone's taste but certainly mine. This was a huge influence on me. Jeff Berlin is one of my favourite players. I was lucky enough to spend a bit of time with Alan Holdsworth a few years ago... such a lovely, humble man. He was an absolutely astounding talent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Saw Jeff at Bass Day a few years back and really enjoyed his playing live. Saw Holdsworth with Jimmy Johnson and IIRC Chad Wackerman a few years back too. Jimmy J was sublime, as always. Love Bruford’s drumming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, steantval said: Dave Stewart, that brings back some old prog memories, seen him play in the band called Egg, I’m pretty sure he was also in the band Khan. Yup, he was in Khan, and plays on "Space Shanty". What a rare joy to see Egg mentioned. I lurv them. In fact I think I love everything that has had Dave Stewart in the vicinity. I'd love the Corona virus if he'd been close to it! 😃 As to One of a Kind, I love both that album and its brethren "Feels Good to me" and "Gradually Going Tornado". They all have that emotional impact that make me move around as if I could dance in 13/8 - 4/4 - 17/8. But who cares; they make me move! Better for my health than sitting still! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Don`t read his autobiography, the most boring piece of moaning I have ever read. Good drummer though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, jezzaboy said: Don`t read his autobiography, the most boring piece of moaning I have ever read. Good drummer though. I must admit, I find it difficult to take him seriously after reading his autobiography. As talented as he is, it was fascinating (in all the wrong ways) to see how someone who has been lucky enough to have had such a fortunate life could whinge so much about virtually everything and everybody...! Edited March 6, 2020 by peteb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I don't recall the book being particularly contentious. Maybe he wingers less than other Jazz musicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_derby Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, peteb said: I must admit, I find it difficult to take him seriously after reading his autobiography. As talented as he is, it was fascinating (in all the wrong ways) to see how someone who has been lucky enough to have had such a fortunate life could whinge so much about virtually everything and everybody...! Phew, thanks. I thought it was only me who thought like that after reading it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, 4000 said: Love Bruford’s drumming. Likewise. Saw Crimson , the Belew / Fripp / Bruford / Levin lineup, at Friars, Ayelsbury. Fab gig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 All the -ve comments about Bruford's autobiography has got me interested in reading it now to see what you are all talking about. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No lust in Jazz Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 16 hours ago, MacDaddy said: This is why Punk happened. No it isn't. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_derby Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, dmccombe7 said: All the -ve comments about Bruford's autobiography has got me interested in reading it now to see what you are all talking about. Dave Yes, definitely worth a read if you're at all interested in the music and the era. To me, he often comes across as a 'glass half-empty' type of person. However, he's wise enough to admit some errors. For example,he says that he really didn't enjoy his stint in Gong at the time. Only in hindsight did he appreciate what they were doing and how they were doing it. As an alternative and companion I can fully recommend 'Different Every Time' the authorised biography of Robert Wyatt. Similar times, similar skill level, radically different career path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Len_derby said: Yes, definitely worth a read if you're at all interested in the music and the era. To me, he often comes across as a 'glass half-empty' type of person. However, he's wise enough to admit some errors. For example,he says that he really didn't enjoy his stint in Gong at the time. Only in hindsight did he appreciate what they were doing and how they were doing it. As an alternative and companion I can fully recommend 'Different Every Time' the authorised biography of Robert Wyatt. Similar times, similar skill level, radically different career path. Had to google Robert Wyatt as never heard of him altho i have heard of Soft Machine but never really listened to them much. Think i might look at the Bruford autobiography Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 In case anyone is interested, there are over a dozen Jeff Berlin transcriptions, including Bruford tunes, in my transcription archive under the Theory and Technique section. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Loved this album too! My introduction to Bruford and later UK. First time I heard slapping too really. Forgot about it until a few years later and Mark King emerged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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