For the forum investigators... the lightest cab with WHEELS?

[fretmeister]

Quick background - I play in at a music trust every Saturday, in 3 different ensembles. Each requires a room change so I have to move my gear every 50 mins or so.

Current gear for this is:

Bass

Class D head

Barefaced One10

Compressor & tuner.

 

The amp rig is very light, but to save time between rooms I put my bass back in the bag, and balance the pedals on top of the Amp&Cab and then carry it, with my sheet music in another bag with a shoulder strap. I can then do it in 1 trip, which is pretty much compulsory. I don't unplug anything other than the power and the bass.

When carrying all of it, it's quite heavy so I'm wondering about approaching this from the other direction and getting a larger cab that has wheels so I don't actually have to do much lifting.

 

1 room change (in and out) has a couple of stairs but nothing too bad.

 

So what is the lightest cab you can think of that comes with wheels as standard? I'm thinking Tilt-back really and not like a Marshall 4x12!

I know the Barefaced Super Twin has tilt back wheels, but are there other options? Built in wheels don't seem to be that common.

 

All ideas welcome!

 

 

[jrixn1]

Keep the existing rig and get a lightweight folding hand cart?

[Grangur]

Why not make find a way to secure the whole lot to one of these?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yaheetech-Aluminium-Foldable-Industrial-Warehouse/dp/B01N9K7KQR?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4

Or buy casters for the bottom of the One10 and attach a handle?

[BassBunny]

If you like your current set-up, just buy a fold up trolley from Aldi, ( I think they have them at the moment for £17), and a long bungee strap, the flat type, to keep everything in place when you move. I do something similar with 2 1x12's, a small head and an aluminium "bits box". Works a treat.

Job done for minimum outlay.

Looks like a number of like minded BassChatters.

 

Edited March 9, 2020 by BassBunny

[fretmeister]

1 minute ago, jrixn1 said:

Keep the existing rig and get a lightweight folding hand cart?

I'd still have to take the rig off the cart when in use other wise those things always end up with a nasty rattle somewhere.

[BassBunny]

1 minute ago, fretmeister said:

I'd still have to take the rig off the cart when in use other wise those things always end up with a nasty rattle somewhere.

If you have feet on the cab it just slides away. I just use the bungee to keep everything together when moving it.

[fretmeister]

Just now, BassBunny said:

If you have feet on the cab it just slides away. I just use the bungee to keep everything together when moving it.

Mmmm.

Might be worth trying and using the distance selling rules etc to give a trolley a proper go.

[Grangur]

2 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

I'd still have to take the rig off the cart when in use other wise those things always end up with a nasty rattle somewhere.

Then go for fixing casters to the bottom of the One10 and find a way to attach a handle - so the One10 becomes the base of the trolley and all the other gear sits on top - like a bag the aircrew use.

I'd look at lifting the pull-up handle from an old suitcase and go from there.

[Grangur]

2 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

Mmmm.

Might be worth trying and using the distance selling rules etc to give a trolley a proper go.

I might be able to help you with "used" one that you can move on if it doesn't work for you.

[bertbass]

This is what you need.

 

https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/gb/Penn-Elcom-3-Stage-Removable-Case-Trolley-H4515/m-8943.aspx?PartnerID=10&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0pfzBRCOARIsANi0g0sAvEMDbqooWz-Mhzato7FX7jMUCMvjDnOkLD6jLAACHCxEBInkXFAaArEmEALw_wcB

[chris_b]

A trolley and a couple of bungee straps.

[pete.young]

A PJB double four, a clip-on tuner and a backpack.

[fretmeister]

2 hours ago, bertbass said:

This is what you need.

 

https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/gb/Penn-Elcom-3-Stage-Removable-Case-Trolley-H4515/m-8943.aspx?PartnerID=10&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0pfzBRCOARIsANi0g0sAvEMDbqooWz-Mhzato7FX7jMUCMvjDnOkLD6jLAACHCxEBInkXFAaArEmEALw_wcB

That looks handy.

[Dan Dare]

Got to be a folding trolley. The wheels on cabs are generally small, which means they are next to useless on anything but level/smooth ground. A trolley will mean you can use the gear you prefer, rather than be limited to the stuff that has wheels. Avoid the El Cheapo trolleys. You don't need to spend a fortune. I paid around £80 for something with a 120 kilo capacity that is still light and will probably outlast me. It carries all my PA stuff, too, which is a bonus.

[Mottlefeeder]

7 hours ago, bertbass said:

This is what you need.

 

https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/gb/Penn-Elcom-3-Stage-Removable-Case-Trolley-H4515/m-8943.aspx?PartnerID=10&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0pfzBRCOARIsANi0g0sAvEMDbqooWz-Mhzato7FX7jMUCMvjDnOkLD6jLAACHCxEBInkXFAaArEmEALw_wcB

I disagree - looking at the size of the wheels, that is unlikely to cope with a dirt-track car park, rough concrete flooring, kebstones etc. You need something with soft tyres on 100mm (or bigger) wheels.

David

[fretmeister]

So you guys are telling me to buy the Super Twin then?

[Happy Jack]

[Low Class]

17 hours ago, bertbass said:

This is what you need.

 

https://www.pennelcomonline.com/en/gb/Penn-Elcom-3-Stage-Removable-Case-Trolley-H4515/m-8943.aspx?PartnerID=10&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0pfzBRCOARIsANi0g0sAvEMDbqooWz-Mhzato7FX7jMUCMvjDnOkLD6jLAACHCxEBInkXFAaArEmEALw_wcB

 

+1!  Here's my rig with a similar product:

https://tchweb.com/three-stage-removable-surface-mount-extension-handle-with-wheels/

I looked at the one you linked to also before I bought this one as it seemed to be a little more heavy duty. This is my 3rd cab now with this setup. 

 

Edited March 10, 2020 by Low Class

[Low Class]

9 hours ago, Mottlefeeder said:

I disagree - looking at the size of the wheels, that is unlikely to cope with a dirt-track car park, rough concrete flooring, kebstones etc. You need something with soft tyres on 100mm (or bigger) wheels.

David

From the OP: "Quick background - I play in at a music trust every Saturday, in 3 different ensembles. Each requires a room change so I have to move my gear every 50 mins or so. " 

Doesn't sound like he's going through any dirt track car parks. I've been using this setup on 3 different cabs over the past 2 years and I will never be without it. Works quite well in parking lots. Now it will be limited if the cab weighed much more (50lbs+) or if used in unusually rough terrain, but otherwise it is quite up to the job. 

Edited March 10, 2020 by Low Class

[fretmeister]

My entire route from car to playing is pretty smooth.

[onehandclapping]

21 hours ago, fretmeister said:

So you guys are telling me to buy the Super Twin then?

I have a super twin and love it but I find it a bit awkward moving around especially up stairs...if the one 10 is doing the job I would probably stay with it...I have owned a one 10 ...what a great size

[Mottlefeeder]

 

14 hours ago, Low Class said:

From the OP: "Quick background - I play in at a music trust every Saturday, in 3 different ensembles. Each requires a room change so I have to move my gear every 50 mins or so. " 

Doesn't sound like he's going through any dirt track car parks. I've been using this setup on 3 different cabs over the past 2 years and I will never be without it. Works quite well in parking lots. Now it will be limited if the cab weighed much more (50lbs+) or if used in unusually rough terrain, but otherwise it is quite up to the job. 

5 hours ago, fretmeister said:

My entire route from car to playing is pretty smooth.

Fair enough - my load-in is usually anything but smooth so it colours my view of the world.

David

[Pea Turgh]

1 minute ago, Mottlefeeder said:

 

Fair enough - my load-in is usually anything but smooth so it colours my view of the world.

David

And gives you double vision 

[Mottlefeeder]

1 minute ago, Pea Turgh said:

And gives you double vision 

I wonder if that would help me learn double bass?

David