4000 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Stub Mandrel said: I am always fascinated how what sounds like fantastic bass tone in a song, once isolated, sounds nothing like you expect. Sounds awesome either way to me. This is interesting given it’s from the same album, same bass & rig but recorded in a different place, disregarding eq etc: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: I am always fascinated how what sounds like fantastic bass tone in a song, once isolated, sounds nothing like you expect. Although it's wonderful to hear in isolation, in this instance the bass sounds exactly how I expected - it's not exactly tucked away on the record! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 @4000 classic Rickenbacker clank! And reminds, of course, of the hate-him-or-love him Geddy Lee (I'm in the love him camp!) Ritchie Blackmore, in his Rainbow incarnation, was the first gig I got to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Too many to mention for me but, I do love the growl and grunt from Guy Pratt's Bass on this track that deserves a mention (Top, top playing as well). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 @lowdown - yeah "growl and grunt" always gets a thumbs up from me! Do you know what he was playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Al Krow said: @lowdown - yeah "growl and grunt" always gets a thumbs up from me! Do you know what he was playing? Here you go, Al... One he made earlier.... Edited December 29, 2020 by lowdown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 As I had my rig plugged in, just tried copping the Glover sound with my 2 ‘72 4001 basses. It was interesting to me that I had to roll my neck pickups off by about a third compared to my normal sound. FWIW the neck pickups on the old basses tend to be noticeably louder than the bridge pickups, the opposite of the modern basses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Hah! Just jealous that you have TWO more 4001s than most of us! I'll likely be settling for one of these poor man's substitutes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, 4000 said: Sounds awesome either way to me. This is interesting given it’s from the same album, same bass & rig but recorded in a different place, disregarding eq etc: Fabulous. I've never heard it isolated before. Underscores why Glover is my all time favourite bassist. Some of those fills are just so melodic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Hah! Just jealous that you have TWO more 4001s than most of us! I'll likely be settling for one of these poor man's substitutes... I think the most I’ve had at one time was five. 😉😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, 4000 said: I think the most I’ve had at one time was five. 😉😂 Awww - you're just rubbing it in now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Paul S said: Fabulous. I've never heard it isolated before. Underscores why Glover is my all time favourite bassist. Some of those fills are just so melodic. A bit baffling why Ritchie didn’t rate him tbh. I really like Glenn Hughes, but I wouldn’t say he’s a better player than Rog. Different, yes. Although of course there are the vocals too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 He also moved on from his classic Rick sound to being a Vigier man... Nice little interview with him here: Roger Glover Talks About Deep Purple, Ronnie James Dio and Ritchie Blackmore | GuitarInternational.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 He went through several other things on the way. He says here he always felt the Rick/Marshall combo was too distorted. https://www.rogerglover.com/bass-players-question-time/equipment/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers_Williamson Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) On 25/09/2020 at 06:05, alexa3020 said: The tone on the live version of a forest by the cure. I think it sounds much bigger and more aggressive than the lp version which is quite minimalist. As others have said, it’s all about context of where it sits in the mix with other instruments. I think the tone here is perfect for the song Bass player's changed quite a lot since I last heard that track! Edited December 29, 2020 by Piers_Williamson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: Although it's wonderful to hear in isolation, in this instance the bass sounds exactly how I expected - it's not exactly tucked away on the record! It may be partly the isolation process, but to me these tracks always sound more middly, more handling noise, much less even between notes and more 'human' timing but always very different from what you might hear from a demo of a bass rig... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, lowdown said: Here you go, Al... One he made earlier.... Great! Today I saw Guy Pratt and Lemmy both using the same four-note chord shape 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, 4000 said: He went through several other things on the way. He says here he always felt the Rick/Marshall combo was too distorted. https://www.rogerglover.com/bass-players-question-time/equipment/ Tbf Marshall have pretty much fallen by the wayside in terms of bass gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Tbf Marshall have pretty much fallen by the wayside in terms of bass gear. I love the old Superbass heads. I don’t like many modern rigs tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: It may be partly the isolation process, but to me these tracks always sound more middly, more handling noise, much less even between notes and more 'human' timing but always very different from what you might hear from a demo of a bass rig... That I do agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: I am always fascinated how what sounds like fantastic bass tone in a song, once isolated, sounds nothing like you expect. That's probably why we here spend so much time chasing some elusive sound.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Video working really hard to show how well they all were getting on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: It may be partly the isolation process, but to me these tracks always sound more middly, more handling noise, much less even between notes and more 'human' timing but always very different from what you might hear from a demo of a bass rig... That’s likely because, theoretically at least, demos of bass rigs are about sounding good in isolation (although FWIW, most demos on YouTube sound bloody awful to me; if someone demo-d a rig and got something like Roger’s isolated sound I’d think that was a fab sound). Edited December 30, 2020 by 4000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I've had to move my 'office' into my workshop. This is good as it means I have my TE combo set up and switched on all day and, presently, a jazz bass in reach from my chair. I have input gain nice and high, the pre-shape in, balanced by a gentle 3db lift centred on about 2kHz, usually no effects. I find I can spend ages just playing simple riffs or just single notes, especially on my Jazz where playing with the volumes (I generally leave the tone right up unless playing reggae) and moving my playing position gives me a huge range of wonderful sounds. I am very, very happy with the tones I am getting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Always loved the sound of the bass in this track by Trapeze, featuring Glenn Hughes (bass & vox). "Heft" a plenty😉! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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