Blown away by the bass tone

[4000]

1 hour ago, Stub Mandrel said:

I am always fascinated how what sounds like fantastic bass tone in a song, once isolated, sounds nothing like you expect.

Sounds awesome either way to me. 
This is interesting given it’s from the same album, same bass & rig but recorded in a different place, disregarding eq etc:

 

[Cosmo Valdemar]

2 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

I am always fascinated how what sounds like fantastic bass tone in a song, once isolated, sounds nothing like you expect.

Although it's wonderful to hear in isolation,  in this instance the bass sounds exactly how I expected - it's not exactly tucked away on the record!

[Al Krow]

@4000 classic Rickenbacker clank! And reminds, of course, of the hate-him-or-love him Geddy Lee (I'm in the love him camp!)

Ritchie Blackmore, in his Rainbow incarnation, was the first gig I got to go to.

[lowdown]

Too many to mention for me but, I do love the growl and grunt from Guy Pratt's Bass on this track that deserves a mention (Top, top playing as well).

 

 

[Al Krow]

@lowdown - yeah "growl and grunt" always gets a thumbs up from me! Do you know what he was playing?

[lowdown]

3 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

@lowdown - yeah "growl and grunt" always gets a thumbs up from me! Do you know what he was playing?

 Here you go, Al...

One he made earlier....

 

 

Edited December 29, 2020 by lowdown

[4000]

As I had my rig plugged in, just tried copping the Glover sound with my 2 ‘72 4001 basses. It was interesting to me that I had to roll my neck pickups off by about a third compared to my normal sound. FWIW the neck pickups on the old basses tend to be noticeably louder than the bridge pickups, the opposite of the modern basses.

[Al Krow]

Hah! Just jealous that you have TWO more 4001s than most of us!

I'll likely be settling for one of these poor man's substitutes...

[Paul S]

56 minutes ago, 4000 said:

Sounds awesome either way to me. 
This is interesting given it’s from the same album, same bass & rig but recorded in a different place, disregarding eq etc:

 

Fabulous.  I've never heard it isolated before.  Underscores why Glover is my all time favourite bassist.  Some of those fills are just so melodic.

[4000]

18 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Hah! Just jealous that you have TWO more 4001s than most of us!

I'll likely be settling for one of these poor man's substitutes...

I think the most I’ve had at one time was five. 😉😂

[Al Krow]

Just now, 4000 said:

I think the most I’ve had at one time was five. 😉😂

Awww - you're just rubbing it in now! 

[4000]

17 minutes ago, Paul S said:

Fabulous.  I've never heard it isolated before.  Underscores why Glover is my all time favourite bassist.  Some of those fills are just so melodic.

A bit baffling why Ritchie didn’t rate him tbh. I really like Glenn Hughes, but I wouldn’t say he’s a better player than Rog. Different, yes. Although of course there are the vocals too. 

[Al Krow]

He also moved on from his classic Rick sound 

to being a Vigier man...

Nice little interview with him here:

Roger Glover Talks About Deep Purple, Ronnie James Dio and Ritchie Blackmore | GuitarInternational.com

[4000]

He went through several other things on the way.

He says here he always felt the Rick/Marshall combo was too distorted. 

https://www.rogerglover.com/bass-players-question-time/equipment/
 

[Piers_Williamson]

On 25/09/2020 at 06:05, alexa3020 said:

The tone on the live version of a forest by the cure.

 

I think it sounds much bigger and more aggressive than the lp version which is quite minimalist.

As others have said, it’s all about context of where it sits in the mix with other instruments. I think the tone here is perfect for the song

Bass player's changed quite a lot since I last heard that track!

 

 

Edited December 29, 2020 by Piers_Williamson

[Stub Mandrel]

1 hour ago, Cosmo Valdemar said:

Although it's wonderful to hear in isolation,  in this instance the bass sounds exactly how I expected - it's not exactly tucked away on the record!

It may be partly the isolation process, but to me these tracks always sound more middly, more handling noise, much less even between notes and more 'human' timing but always very different from what you might hear from a demo of a bass rig...

[Stub Mandrel]

1 hour ago, lowdown said:

Here you go, Al...

One he made earlier....

 

Great! Today I saw Guy Pratt and Lemmy both using the same four-note chord shape 🙂

[Al Krow]

28 minutes ago, 4000 said:

He went through several other things on the way.

He says here he always felt the Rick/Marshall combo was too distorted. 

https://www.rogerglover.com/bass-players-question-time/equipment/
 

Tbf Marshall have pretty much fallen by the wayside in terms of bass gear. 

[4000]

18 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Tbf Marshall have pretty much fallen by the wayside in terms of bass gear. 

I love the old Superbass heads. I don’t like many modern rigs tbh. 

[Cosmo Valdemar]

45 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

It may be partly the isolation process, but to me these tracks always sound more middly, more handling noise, much less even between notes and more 'human' timing but always very different from what you might hear from a demo of a bass rig...

That I do agree with. 

[hubrad]

7 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

I am always fascinated how what sounds like fantastic bass tone in a song, once isolated, sounds nothing like you expect.

That's probably why we here spend so much time chasing some elusive sound.. 

[Stub Mandrel]

Video working really hard to show how well they all were getting on...

 

[4000]

17 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said:

It may be partly the isolation process, but to me these tracks always sound more middly, more handling noise, much less even between notes and more 'human' timing but always very different from what you might hear from a demo of a bass rig...

That’s likely because, theoretically at least, demos of bass rigs are about sounding good in isolation (although FWIW, most demos on YouTube sound bloody awful to me; if someone demo-d a rig and got something like Roger’s isolated sound I’d think that was a fab sound). 

Edited December 30, 2020 by 4000

[Stub Mandrel]

I've had to move my 'office' into my workshop.

This is good as it means I have my TE combo set up and switched on all day and, presently, a jazz bass in reach from my chair.

I have input gain nice and high, the pre-shape in, balanced by a gentle 3db lift centred on about 2kHz, usually no effects.

I find I can spend ages just playing simple riffs or just single notes, especially on my Jazz where playing with the volumes (I generally leave the tone right up unless playing reggae) and moving my playing position gives me a huge range of wonderful sounds.

I am very, very happy with the tones I am getting.

[SteveK]

Always loved the sound of the bass in this track by Trapeze, featuring Glenn Hughes (bass & vox). "Heft" a plenty😉!