Low tuning

[ARGH]

Just heard,a Bass string designed for G sharp....

well it was a thumpy fart actually...

[Jase]

I don't get this super sub, earth's core approach to bass....they're all mad! Soon the bass will just disappear for humans and only be heard by deep sea life forms.

[Chelios]

I play at C

[risingson]

Pointless pointless pointless

By all means if you can ever find a way to utilise a low F sharp, but a low G sharp? Aren't we getting into the realms of ridiculousness?

[Toasted]

I don't want to bash anyone for anything they choose to do with music.

For me, I'll be playing in standard tuning whatever band I'm in. If the guitarists want to tune down, that's great - but it doens't stop me playing in standard.

[RayFW]

Here's a pic of the aftermath of a Low G# snapping.
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[alexclaber]

There probably is a context in which it would be useful but not terribly frequently. There are two pipe organs in the world with a 64' stop, which gives an 8Hz fundamental, though there are more that synthesise this overtone series without the fundamental by combining 32' and 21'1/3 stops. So not really a usable note on its own and the times you would want it underpinning a big chord etc are few and far between.

Now that I have a five I'm finding the low B string pretty damned useful and I could see myself occasionally using notes below low B if there were no practical considerations. As it is the extra string or different tuning required are for me too much hassle for the few occasions I'd want to go lower but your taste and musical context may vary. Below low F# the law of diminishing returns gets really vicious, especially when it comes to intonation, string tension and amplification.

Alex

Edited March 3, 2009 by alexclaber

[ARGH]

Pics....

its guage is .262

Edited March 3, 2009 by ARGH

[EBS_freak]

This is where the V Bass guys win out. Transposition by midi does away with all the physical problems...

[budget bassist]

I play anywhere between Drop C and standard usually...

[6stringbassist]

Low B is my lowest.

I want a 7 string though, and that may be tuned to an F#.

[BassMunkee]

You'd wanna fairly meaty action with that...

[Stylon Pilson]

[quote name='ARGH' post='424111' date='Mar 3 2009, 01:56 PM']Pics....[/quote]

The Humber Bridge seems a little less stable than usual tonight.

S.P.

[thisnameistaken]

I suppose as a percussion instrument it might be useful, if you like that rattly string-fret sound.

[hubrad]

[quote name='ARGH' post='424111' date='Mar 3 2009, 01:56 PM']Pics....

its guage is .262[/quote]
Man.. that's over a quarter of an inch thick.. beyond the bounds of my tastes!
Wouldn't mind a go just for the interest though.

[budget bassist]

I'd like to be able to tune down to G, to play things like all that remains, but i won't be able to find the strings!

[Randy_Marsh]

you could probably get a decent brown note out of that thing

[Rodders]

I read somewhere on the net that the open low F# on a 7/8 string resonates at 23Hz

with the lower limit of human hearing being 20Hz

so anything below that is useless

Edited March 3, 2009 by Rodders

[Jase]

[quote name='ARGH' post='424111' date='Mar 3 2009, 01:56 PM']Pics....

its guage is .262[/quote]

Wow! I couldn't get to grips with a 110.....that's wild!

[ARGH]

Anyone wanna hear it being played???

I must admit,even as a total ERB zealot...this is now in nutter territory...utterly mad,probably pointless..12.98Hz..I mean what cab is even recreate that as an audiable note AND be transportable to a gig???


[url="http://octave4plus.com/"]http://octave4plus.com/[/url]

Click on custom roundwound strings...scroll to the bottom.

oh and while you are going "Wha??".....Mr Goodman in planning a .270...and Ive seen the prototype for the .298

Edited March 3, 2009 by ARGH

[Protium]

[quote name='Rodders' post='424462' date='Mar 3 2009, 08:02 PM']I read somewhere on the net that the open low F# on a 7/8 string resonates at 23Hz

with the lower limit of human hearing being 20Hz

so anything below that is useless[/quote]

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone[/url]

[Eight]

[quote name='Rodders' post='424462' date='Mar 3 2009, 08:02 PM']I read somewhere on the net that the open low F# on a 7/8 string resonates at 23Hz[/quote]
Hmm... to be honest, I would have thunk that if you're getting an actual F# then it'd be lower than 20Hz mark. Which begs the question, can you still call it an F# if you can't hear the tone and its just a mass of vibration rumbling through the floor!?!

Edit: just seen the overtones stuff. Bit beyond me but would suggest you can hear some kind of note in there. lol.

Edited March 3, 2009 by Eight

[Eight]

I was in two minds about this whole thing - but after following the link from ARGH, I think I kinda like the insanity of it all.

[ARGH]

This IS the only actual REAL cutting edge of Bassplaying,right now.

[Dood]

[quote name='ARGH' post='424519' date='Mar 3 2009, 09:04 PM']This IS the only actual REAL cutting edge of Bassplaying,right now.[/quote]


Not that it needs any introduction... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=137"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=137[/url] ;o) But I find the low F# very useful and aurally exciting (??) when those low notes make my Hifi sub sing! - I have played in bands with the same keyboard player for years now. He's an amazing player and really likes to make use of his full range of sounds. Naturally, when he sweeps down in to those sub bass tones, I wanna be there too. It's another reason why I put Doodle together with Jon.

So, yeah.. low F# then!