Jabba_the_gut Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, stewblack said: That was the short one You can get truss rods in loads of different lengths - probably in 20mm increments from probably about 300mm upwards. What is the length of the truss rod you have and what is the length of the channel from where the retainer was on the old one to the start of the access slot in the headstock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Jabba_the_gut said: You can get truss rods in loads of different lengths - probably in 20mm increments from probably about 300mm upwards. What is the length of the truss rod you have and what is the length of the channel from where the retainer was on the old one to the start of the access slot in the headstock? It's all shut away for the night. I'll measure up tomorrow. I just went to the recommended site and chose the shortest of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Hmm - a real Ric is 33.25" scale, as were some of the copies (I have one), but Fenders and a lot of Ric copies were 34", so it looks like this truss-rod may be that. Apologies if I didn't pick up on that before! I'd check the distance from the centre of the 3 screw holes under where the bridge saddles sit to the very end of the fingerboard at the headstock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 Impasse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 There are other suppliers who stock other lengths, @stewblack. What is the length from the headstock side of the nut to either the retainer slot or the end of the neck? Also, what length is that rod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3below Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 We also need to remember in the earlier thread, the concern about getting the bearing point of the rod at the adjuster end away from the thin neck section at the headstock end (i.e. possibly bringing the adjuster further into the headstock than normal), this image gives the idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 For what it's worth, for a modern 2-way rod, this is the range of positions I usually personally work with: For the function of the rod, the exact positioning isn't overly critical, but in terms of access of the adjuster and the strength of the neck: - the heel end ideally wants to be where the heel starts deepening as the neck meets the body. You want a backstop here too (just a sliver of wood glued in the slot), so that the rod doesn't push in deeper when you push the allen key in from the other end - depending on the rod design, the neck and the allen key access, I have the adjuster either flush with the headstock end of the nut (yellow) or protruding an amount (blue) I get a trussrod length that will, hopefully, fit within that range 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 I should have asked more questions before rushing to buy my trussrod, lesson learnt. If my CFS allows me to get out to the shed today I will bear in mind all the points raised, take measurements and pictures, then report back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 Oh and thank you all so much for your continued support with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Ha, so just extend the slot north, seems a sensible route ('root'/'rout' - geddit?) to me and invisible with a 'fakerplate' in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Haven't had access to the garage so can't get in the shed. I'll get to it ASAP. Apologies for the delay, to those of you enjoying the thread. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 This is a job that should be done in manageable steps. No-one is cracking a whip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 I don't enjoy the best of health so my energy levels play a huge part too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Sorry to hear but glad that you pace yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 No - get it done ASAP, godammit! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 The essence of Basschat in two posts 👆 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 I have risen from my misery and made it out. The rod sits happily in @Andyjr1515 's blue yellow range without protruding into the pick up cavity. In fact when I line up the heel end of the rod with the end of the fingerboard I can almost adjust it as is without lengthening the headstock rout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jabba_the_gut Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 To me, that is 30-40mm too long. From the picture there is no room to get an Allen key into the truss rod. How long is the truss rod you have (including the adjuster)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 630mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 But if I lengthen the gap at the top I will be able to adjust it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 Any way I have cleaned out the groove with sandpaper to accept whichever rod ends up in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, stewblack said: Any way I have cleaned out the groove with sandpaper to accept whichever rod ends up in it. I love it when you talk dirty @stewblack 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 However it's all pretty academic now. This little laquer cracks have developed into a full blown split (can see daylight through it). I've squeezed it shut and applied a bit of glue, we'll see what happens to it but this is no longer looking viable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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