stewblack Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I only own one Hercules product (because I'm notoriously tight with money) it's a multi instrument stand, sits at the end of my bed with 9 basses in it. Well made and I'm happy with it. When I played a T Bird I very nearly bought the one they make from which the bass hangs. However Thomann produced a near identical one at a favourable price point. It has never let me down. I wouldn't hesitate to hang a bass from the wall, but I don't own the room in which I live. However if I did I'd use a heavy screw in U hook from my local hardware shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 These are superb! I can't fault them got lots of guitars hanging from them for years without any problems. Secure and practical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammybee Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, ubit said: These are superb! I can't fault them got lots of guitars hanging from them for years without any problems. Secure and practical. I would love to put all my guitars/basses on these, but only have plasterboard walls. I'd be really afraid my boat anchor jazz would end up on the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, stewblack said: I only own one Hercules product (because I'm notoriously tight with money) it's a multi instrument stand, sits at the end of my bed with 9 basses in it. Well made and I'm happy with it. When I played a T Bird I very nearly bought the one they make from which the bass hangs. However Thomann produced a near identical one at a favourable price point. It has never let me down. I wouldn't hesitate to hang a bass from the wall, but I don't own the room in which I live. However if I did I'd use a heavy screw in U hook from my local hardware shop. In case anyone thinks no-one in their right mind would actually do this, then of course, you're completely right: However - it's been on this wall for nearly 6 years, and about 3 years at my previous place . And that Daion P weighs a ton. Apologies for the Indian restaurant wallpaper - no time to decorate properly when we moved in, and now it's fallen off the bottom of the list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, sammybee said: I would love to put all my guitars/basses on these, but only have plasterboard walls. I'd be really afraid my boat anchor jazz would end up on the floor. I have plasterboard walls too mate. I used the metal plasterboard fixings and they are solid. As I said, they have been hanging for years and I regularly take them down to play them, so they are getting well used. No problems at all. Edited May 25, 2020 by ubit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Bassassin said: In case anyone thinks no-one in their right mind would actually do this, then of course, you're completely right: However - it's been on this wall for nearly 6 years, and about 3 years at my previous place . And that Daion P weighs a ton. Apologies for the Indian restaurant wallpaper - no time to decorate properly when we moved in, and now it's fallen off the bottom of the list... Yep I've used them before, good solid fixture. Cheap and no moving parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonBassAlpha Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I've got one of these in my rehearsal studio. Very solid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, ubit said: I have plasterboard walls too mate. I used the metal plasterboard fixings and they are solid. As I said, they have been hanging for years and I regularly take them down to play them, so they are getting well used. No problems at all. 4 hours ago, sammybee said: I would love to put all my guitars/basses on these, but only have plasterboard walls. I'd be really afraid my boat anchor jazz would end up on the floor. i have 2 of these, one in a plasterboard wall, as @ubit says they are fine as long as you use the right fasteners, i always throw away the ones in the pack and use heavy duty fixings from the Diy shop, the one on a plasterboard wall has been there for about 10 years and has spent a fair amount of that time holding my 1977 precision bass which weighs about 11.5 pounds, it hasn't moved a bit. i trust them totally the other one is holding up my beloved McIlroy acoustic in the living room , if i hadn't popped in to buy the hanger that day with my wife then i never would have bought the guitar. Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 15 hours ago, Matt P said: i have 2 of these, one in a plasterboard wall, as @ubit says they are fine as long as you use the right fasteners, i always throw away the ones in the pack and use heavy duty fixings from the Diy shop, the one on a plasterboard wall has been there for about 10 years and has spent a fair amount of that time holding my 1977 precision bass which weighs about 11.5 pounds, it hasn't moved a bit. i trust them totally the other one is holding up my beloved McIlroy acoustic in the living room , if i hadn't popped in to buy the hanger that day with my wife then i never would have bought the guitar. Matt What exact fixings are you using, do you have a link at all? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 17 hours ago, Matt P said: as long as you use the right fasteners, i always throw away the ones in the pack and use heavy duty fixings from the Diy shop yup, never use the plastic ones. They are pants. Use these, they are really secure and easy to use 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 i have tried the metal ones that @ubit shows but never had much luck with them (they always seem to pull a massive chunk out of the wall in my house) i have used a few different types for various stuff in the house, i think they are most likely one of the bigger Rawl uno type (blue or brown with the thickest screw they suggest) this type are also holding up a overloaded floating shelf in the living room. https://www.rawlplug.co.uk/product/uno-universal-plug/ Rawl Interset are very good if you can measure what thickness the plasterboard is. https://www.rawlplug.co.uk/product/sm-interset/ The metal screw in type are for lighter duty stuff according to the Rawl website. i don't know what they class as light duty though. they must be used with the supplied screws as well. https://www.rawlplug.co.uk/product/dra-02-metal-self-drill-fixing-for-drywall/ Matt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammybee Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, Matt P said: Rawl Interset are very good if you can measure what thickness the plasterboard is. https://www.rawlplug.co.uk/product/sm-interset/ These are the ones that I think I might get.. Is this the right size for the Hercules hangers if I have standard thickness drywall - R-SM-05052 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, sammybee said: These are the ones that I think I might get.. Is this the right size for the Hercules hangers if I have standard thickness drywall - R-SM-05052 ? yes they look right, the plasterboard should be at least 9.5mm thick so they should work fine, i think that the 5mm thread should fit fine through the hanger, you might want a washer to help spread the load over the hanger a bit maybe as i'm not sure exactly what shape the heads are on the screws Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 If you want to be totally sure about a fixing to plasterboard, use these toggles, we use them for handrails 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) the toggle type are very strong, but you do need to install them correctly as once you remove the screw the toggle can fall into the cavity never to be seen again! the interset type allow you to remove the hanger (so that the room can be repainted for example) then the hanger can go back where it was. Edited May 26, 2020 by Matt P typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 If you want to remove the item fitted you just use another toggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Matt P said: i have tried the metal ones that @ubit shows but never had much luck with them (they always seem to pull a massive chunk out of the wall in my house) Are you screwing them in with a screwdriver? If they are pulling bits out of your wall you are either hammering them in or your Gyproc is sub standard because I have never had any problems with these anywhere Ive used them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Never used these but they spread the load: https://www.geefix.com/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, ubit said: Are you screwing them in with a screwdriver? If they are pulling bits out of your wall you are either hammering them in or your Gyproc is sub standard because I have never had any problems with these anywhere Ive used them. yes i followed the instructions carefully and they just seem to make a total mess and i've never trusted them. i prefer to drill a nice clean hole then use one of the other types, there is a chance that the pasterboard was to blame but the other types don't seem to be so picky about the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, yorks5stringer said: Never used these but they spread the load: https://www.geefix.com/ I used to earn my living fitting out show homes on new estates. I would have killed for a box of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) i've just watched the video on the geefix website and i'm not totally convinced, it's a pretty big hole that's needed in the wall, i would be more convinced if they had compared it to more types of fixing rather than just the 2 they did, also the section of plasterboard they used for the geefix was not the same piece that failed on the other 2 types (maybe that's me being cynical!) if you got one of those geefix in the wrong place then it's a bit more of a job to patch the 25mm hole compared to the 8 or 9mm hole that other fasteners use. as i'm always putting holes on the wrong place (apparantly) that would be an issue for me. Matt Edited May 26, 2020 by Matt P extra paragraph 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Well I have had an email reply from hercules asking for some photos and my address, I've sent what they asked for and will report on the progress. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brook_fan Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Just an update from me- I did what was suggested at the start of this post and emailed the two given addresses. A chap responded, asked for photos and serial number and within a week I have had a brand new stand! It has just literally arrived (and with a much better mechanism than the sticky one). Result! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, Brook_fan said: Just an update from me- I did what was suggested at the start of this post and emailed the two given addresses. A chap responded, asked for photos and serial number and within a week I have had a brand new stand! It has just literally arrived (and with a much better mechanism than the sticky one). Result! Where was the serial number on your stand, I have 2 here, one broken one fine and I've searched both of them and there is no sign of a serial number. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brook_fan Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) It's a little sticker on the leg beginning A00 Edited May 29, 2020 by Brook_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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