Happy Jack Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Honestly, using his thumb to fret with, the boy's a fool. I have to say, the basses he brought along to the studio were impressively filthy ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Horse Murphy Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 With his Farmer's hands I think he could use his thumb to push down all four strings at once. You'd definitely have wanted him playing Wicket Keeper in your Cricket team: Chris Squire + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The inept fop interviewing him stopped me watching this past 30 seconds... or maybe I was entranced by your avatar as usual. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Horse Murphy Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Frank Blank said: The inept fop interviewing him stopped me watching this past 30 seconds... or maybe I was entranced by your avatar as usual. I think that's the much-missed Bob Birch who played Bass with Elton John for many years. Definitely a better bass player than Presenter (his style reminds me of a nice version of Beavis and Butthead). He had a terribly tragic end after many years of living in excruciating pain following a hit and run. I saw him live a few times: phenomenal player. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I had to Google who he was. I've heard the name many times.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, SH73 said: I had to Google who he was. I've heard the name many times.... Chris Squire or Bob Birch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Chris had huge hands. I shook hands with him once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SH73 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Happy Jack said: Chris Squire or Bob Birch? I didn't Google the other chap , Bob as the topic is not about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreadBin Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 hours ago, 4000 said: Chris had huge hands. I shook hands with him once. He could do with a PCGC special, I hear they're good for those with big hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Is his bass short scale? The neck looks er..short..😊 or was CS particularly large? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, oldslapper said: Is his bass short scale? The neck looks er..short..😊 or was CS particularly large? He was 6' 3" or 1.93m so probably quite big. Maybe Ric made a short scale bass back then ? Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysbass Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Despite the wisdom that curling the thumb of your fretting hand over the top of the fretboard is “bad technique”; I never cease to be amazed at how many highly competent, creative, successful and iconic bassists (and guitarists) I’ve seen do this to no apparent detriment to their abilities.😯 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Krysbass said: Despite the wisdom that curling the thumb of your fretting hand over the top of the fretboard is “bad technique”; I never cease to be amazed at how many highly competent, creative, successful and iconic bassists (and guitarists) I’ve seen do this to no apparent detriment to their abilities.😯 I have never heard that wisdom, I always thought my technique was lacking because I didn't curl the thumb over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 15 hours ago, 4000 said: Chris had huge hands. I shook hands with him once. He was altogether a pretty large guy - later on sideways as well as upwards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) - Edited March 5, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysbass Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Frank Blank said: I have never heard that wisdom, I always thought my technique was lacking because I didn't curl the thumb over. My thumb also stays behind the neck - so I think you may have a point there.😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 A gentleman never reveals where his thumb has been placed. I do love it when iconic/influential musicians don’t have much clue about the gear they use or theory, (in the same detail) as perhaps less well known keeners. It appears less important somehow? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Krysbass said: Despite the wisdom that curling the thumb of your fretting hand over the top of the fretboard is “bad technique”; I never cease to be amazed at how many highly competent, creative, successful and iconic bassists (and guitarists) I’ve seen do this to no apparent detriment to their abilities.😯 Is it bad technique? Louis Johnson often used his thumb for fretting. That's something about formal music tuition that bugs me i.e. there being a right way or a wrong way. Surely whatever works for the individual is good technique. I'm sure a lot of the way Hendrix played was 'wrong' but who cares when it ended up being original? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysbass Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Barking Spiders said: Is it bad technique? Louis Johnson often used his thumb for fretting. That's something about formal music tuition that bugs me i.e. there being a right way or a wrong way. Surely whatever works for the individual is good technique. I'm sure a lot of the way Hendrix played was 'wrong' but who cares when it ended up being original? Agreed. It should be whatever works is fine. I just recall having a couple of lessons around 15 years ago as my playing had hit a plateau and straight away the tutor insisted I should have my thumb behind the fretboard - so I went away and spent a long time correcting that. Now seeing CS play; I’m again questioning whether I needed to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Technique “rights and wrongs” have been long argued here and elsewhere. When I was a tutor, I did introduce certain left and right hand positions for new starters. This was generally to help efficiency of movement and to hopefully avoid muscular or skeletal issues later on. However, it didn’t over bother me if someone had “unique” and entrenched hand or finger positioning, it was the students choice after all. If they were developing their musical palette, achieving the goals that motivated them and were enjoying playing the instrument, then fab! CS’s thumb has probably been in all sorts of positions, and good on it, I say. I wouldn’t have told him where to shove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I used to curl my thumb round the neck up until last year when i was getting cramp in my little and ring fingers. Googled it and found it could be because of bad technique. I now keep my thumb on back of neck and no problem since. Been playing for 44 yrs now so maybe its just age related that it makes a difference. It was only during long extended rehearsals or long gigs. Fine now tho.............well i was before lock down so back to square one again when we get back to playing in bands again. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Jus Lukin said: I believe that is a custom build by someone other than Ric. I'm not going to Google it though as I need to move some stuff in the garden before it rains! I'm really sad and googled it. Seems its an original 4001S from 1964. Its apparently been repaired and refurbished several times over the years tho which Chris believed helped him achieve his particular sound. SAD i know but i'm still in Lock down up here and nothing better to do. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) - Edited March 5, 2022 by Jus Lukin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappindabass Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Luckily my hands are like Jeremy Beadles and have no chance of getting my thumb over the top of the neck.xxxxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Slappindabass said: Luckily my hands are like Jeremy Beadles and have no chance of getting my thumb over the top of the neck.xxxxx Likewise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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