BottomEndian Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 It seems that all the P-J basses out there have the P pup at the neck and the J at the bridge. Just out of curiosity, has anyone come across one that did it the other way round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary mac Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 No never encountered that. I suspect that Leo probably tried it all those years back though, before settling on the configuration that we all know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I made mine kind of like that. P in normal place and J right at the neck. Can't pic from here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='433437' date='Mar 13 2009, 11:43 AM']I made mine kind of like that. P in normal place and J right at the neck. Can't pic from here though.[/quote] That sounds awesome. The J must be instant dub-land. Pics ASAP please! You'd probably have room to stick another J in at the bridge too... Hold on! Surely John Paul Jones must have experimented with a J-P-J configuration, if only for the name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Horse Murphy Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I think one of the Fender Stu Hamm or Urge or something basses had a JPJ configuration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythSte Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 [quote name='Old Horse Murphy' post='433458' date='Mar 13 2009, 11:56 AM']I think one of the Fender Stu Hamm or Urge or something basses had a JPJ configuration[/quote] Yes indeedy, but i too would be interested to see a P at the back and j in the "normal" position. Humm...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 [quote name='MythSte' post='433475' date='Mar 13 2009, 12:08 PM']Yes indeedy, but i too would be interested to see a P at the back and j in the "normal" position. Humm...![/quote] Me too (obviously). Whenever I've played a Jazz (which is admittedly only three times), I've always gravitated towards the neck pickup, and I'd be really interested to hear the extra "bite" from a P at the bridge. My guess is that you'd have to swap the P's coil positions (E-A unit closer to the bridge than D-G unit) to avoid the D and G strings being too twangy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Funk Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Warwick do the Buzzard which I think has two Ps - and the one at the bridge might be in reverse. Would be interesting to hear a J-P! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='433484' date='Mar 13 2009, 12:16 PM']I'd be really interested to hear the extra "bite" from a P at the bridge. My guess is that you'd have to swap the P's coil positions (E-A unit closer to the bridge than D-G unit) to avoid the D and G strings being too twangy.[/quote] I've seen "mirrored" dual P p/u's like that (Warwick Stryker?), but BC Rich - who have been using mainly dual P DiMarzios on their basses for 30+ years, leave them in standard configuration and get a lovely punchy sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 [quote name='The Funk' post='433534' date='Mar 13 2009, 12:46 PM']Warwick do the Buzzard which I think has two Ps - and the one at the bridge might be in reverse. Would be interesting to hear a J-P![/quote] Just beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonBassAlpha Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 The 80's Vox Standard has a Dimarzio P at the bridge. Sounds good in a Jaco-esque way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 [quote name='Shaggy' post='433536' date='Mar 13 2009, 12:48 PM']I've seen "mirrored" dual P p/u's like that (Warwick Stryker?), but BC Rich - who have been using mainly dual P DiMarzios on their basses for 30+ years, leave them in standard configuration and get a lovely punchy sound. [/quote] Interesting! Do you use the bridge pup on its own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 [quote name='MoonBassAlpha' post='433553' date='Mar 13 2009, 12:58 PM']The 80's Vox Standard has a Dimarzio P at the bridge. Sounds good in a Jaco-esque way.[/quote] Weird! To me, the Jaco tone's all about the J pickup, but maybe it's just the positioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='433556' date='Mar 13 2009, 12:59 PM']Interesting! Do you use the bridge pup on its own?[/quote] Personally, very rarely on [b]any[/b] dual p/u bass - I find combined setting is generally where the tone is at, or neck p/u only for a darker tone (eg; for R&B / blues). The bridge p/u on my Eagle certainly gives a fatter sound than on my P/J precision, but I guess the big advantage of P/P is that the output of the p/u's is better matched than with P/J. A lot of it is aesthetic too - a J / P would just somehow look "wrong"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Even Fender have done a P-P ( oo-er!) in the early -80s Elite IIs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted March 13, 2009 Author Share Posted March 13, 2009 [quote name='Shaggy' post='433712' date='Mar 13 2009, 02:36 PM']a J / P would just somehow look "wrong"![/quote] Or is that just the way we're conditioned by what we know and love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcrow Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) the historical progress from single coil at the scale/6 position to split coil to twin single coil to full humbucker nearer the bridge never took in the P/J configuration imho its a bit of a marketing thing for those who want a P and a 'J' for pups in those positions to really be matched one would need to look at rickenbacker small thingy at the neck and a robust one at the bridge...single coils when you do that you dont really need the neck one though just a 3 band eq to manipulate the bridge pup...which should be a humbucker wired parallel anyone find that interesting...you ray owners Edited March 13, 2009 by mrcrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Nailed Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Doesn't look half bad actually...couldnt be arsed putting the same configuration on a P body it's more work. Think that might not look as good, the offset J shape allows a lot of permutations - i.e. double humbucker's Jazz's look pretty dang nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr pablo Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Tomahawks bassplayer has a bass in the god hates a coward video with that config see [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt856_nRxQk"]here[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='433452' date='Mar 13 2009, 11:53 AM']That sounds awesome. The J must be instant dub-land. Pics ASAP please! You'd probably have room to stick another J in at the bridge too... Hold on! Surely John Paul Jones must have experimented with a J-P-J configuration, if only for the name? [/quote] Kinda hard to make out with black pickups in a dark scratchplate, also, twin P on my Mockingbird: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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