OliverBlackman Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 6 hours ago, Beedster said: Might be a modified Fender body of course? I thought this. Wasn't uncommon for pickups to be replaced in that era and some will need the extra space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Riva Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 2 minutes ago, OliverBlackman said: I thought this. Wasn't uncommon for pickups to be replaced in that era and some will need the extra space. Indeed. This is my ‘73 Jazz. The original owner (who sold it to me in the early 80s) had already changed the p/ups and had cream coloured DiMarzios fitted by the time I had it. As was the thing at the time I then decided that having EMGs installed would be the game changer that would obviously elevate my playing to another level (it really didn’t, though the bass sounded great!). Whilst the routing isn’t quite as rounded as Brian’s example, it’s still a world away from what it would have been originally… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns-bass Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 28 minutes ago, OliverBlackman said: I thought this. Wasn't uncommon for pickups to be replaced in that era and some will need the extra space. Simplest answer is usually the right one. Someone probably swapped out the pickups and did a DIY job (or sent it to a luthier) and then put it back to stock at some point. You could tell a bit more about that by the soldering probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 23 minutes ago, Old Man Riva said: I then decided that having EMGs installed would be the game changer that would obviously elevate my playing to another level (it really didn’t, ......... We have all been there. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Houghton Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Here's my Fender Jazz Bass, it's a 65 body with original pots, pickups, and bridge, pick guard is a new one, same spec as the original one. It has a 69 neck on it with original 69 tuners, the truss rod was knackered, so had to have a new two-way one installed by luthier Bryan Eastwood and his son from Bacup, near Manchester, its been stripped back to bare wood at some point. It sounds amazing and plays really nicely, one of the guys from Bass brothers in Leamington Spar had a quick go, when he picked another bass up from me, and said it played great, and the neck was exceptional. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Riva Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 38 minutes ago, Owen said: We have all been there. Brass nut? Check. Schaller bridge? Check. EMGs? Check Welcome to 1980s bass mods! No instrument too good to devalue, no money too hard earned to waste (though the EMGs were ace)! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 28 minutes ago, Old Man Riva said: Brass nut? Check. Schaller bridge? Check. EMGs? Check Welcome to 1980s bass mods! No instrument too good to devalue, no money too hard earned to waste (though the EMGs were ace)! I KNEW that the Baddass bridge was going to revolutionise not only my playing but my life. Yeah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piers_Williamson Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Owen said: I KNEW that the Baddass bridge was going to revolutionise not only my playing but my life. Yeah Wasn't all this because we all thought the Fender quality control was 'not very good'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Riva Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 53 minutes ago, Piers_Williamson said: Wasn't all this because we all thought the Fender quality control was 'not very good'? In my experience it was less about Fender QC at the time and more about there being a different narrative around basses (active p/ups etc.) and the opportunity to mod basses in a fairly straightforward way off the shelf. There was a lot of talk about sustain, and how a brass nut and a high mass bridge would lead to a note lingering around for days (“the sustain, listen to it”). I had an early Fender Squier P bass, which was then modded with a brass nut, Schaller bridge and EMG p/ups, which, quite honestly, I couldn’t really tell if it sounded better before or after! Would’ve been better off buying a Westone! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Old Man Riva said: In my experience it was less about Fender QC at the time and more about there being a different narrative around basses (active p/ups etc.) and the opportunity to mod basses in a fairly straightforward way off the shelf. There was a lot of talk about sustain, and how a brass nut and a high mass bridge would lead to a note lingering around for days (“the sustain, listen to it”). I had an early Fender Squier P bass, which was then modded with a brass nut, Schaller bridge and EMG p/ups, which, quite honestly, I couldn’t really tell if it sounded better before or after! Would’ve been better off buying a Westone! I dunno about that, but its true that back in the early 80s, we all had 70s Fenders that we modded and swapped out bridges, pickups, etc. I remember seeing an interview with Rick Wills (Foreigner, Peter Frampton, Roxy Music, Dave Gilmour, etc) on some YouTube bass channel where he and the guy interviewing him agreed that you couldn't really say that a Fender was 'yours' untill you had taken a screwdriver to it or modded it in some way! Edited August 25 by peteb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Some pics sennt by the seller with the neck off.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 3 minutes ago, briansbrew said: Some pics sennt by the seller with the neck off.. All looks good there Brian doesn’t it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, Reggaebass said: All looks good there Brian doesn’t it Sure does Chris, it was bought off Will at Bassbros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 2 hours ago, briansbrew said: Some pics sennt by the seller with the neck off.. Ticks a lot of boxes to my novice eyes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 I’d still like go see the front PUP rout…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 23 minutes ago, Beedster said: I’d still like go see the front PUP rout…. Good idea Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misdee Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 I too remember when modding old (although they weren't that old at the time) Fender basses was de rigueur. It was mainly because Fender basses were deemed to be outmoded by more modern designs with active EQ, heavy brass bridges, exotic woods etc. It took a while before someone actually played a stock Fender and said "Hang on a minute, this sounds alright as it is!" Funny thing is, I also remember back in the 1980s it seemed a lot harder to find nice Fender basses than nowadays. Jazz Basses in particular were in very short supply. When I first went to the USA in the mid-1980s the abundance of used Fender basses was a revelation. They weren't particularly cheap, but there was plenty of choice. I know the internet has helped concentrate the marketplace, but even allowing for that it was much harder to locate used Fender basses in the 1980s. So many vintage Fenders seem to have surfaced subsequently I'd like to know where they were hiding! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns-bass Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 The problem you might have here is a private seller trying to get back the same price they paid at BassBros. I appreciate people always do this. But you have to remember someone sold it to BassBros substantially cheaper (I’d estimate about £2000 - £2200) which probably more accurately reflects its private market value. If you want to know how the vintage market is, try selling a vintage guitar back to the shop you bought it from. In most cases they’re not interested. Funny that… If you can get this at a good price and it plays well I can’t see you losing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 12 minutes ago, Burns-bass said: The problem you might have here is a private seller trying to get back the same price they paid at BassBros. I appreciate people always do this. But you have to remember someone sold it to BassBros substantially cheaper (I’d estimate about £2000 - £2200) which probably more accurately reflects its private market value. If you want to know how the vintage market is, try selling a vintage guitar back to the shop you bought it from. In most cases they’re not interested. Funny that… If you can get this at a good price and it plays well I can’t see you losing out. Totally agree, the chap is trying to get back what he paid retail, the shops profit added to what they paid for it initially, I don’t want to be victim that pays the profit as it will be very hard to get back if I decided to sell it on down the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshy Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 (edited) 9 minutes ago, briansbrew said: Totally agree, the chap is trying to get back what he paid retail, the shops profit added to what they paid for it initially, I don’t want to be victim that pays the profit as it will be very hard to get back if I decided to sell it on down the line. Unfortunately 2/3 of whatever they’re asking for is what BB will have paid imo. As stated above no way you buy anything from a shop, use it and sell it for the same money Edited August 26 by walshy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyrocks Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 When I was selling my '87 PB-62, which I bought from Bass Bros, it was for sale on here for a while. Will did contact me and made me a very fair offer to buy it back. I thanked him and said I would bear it mind if it didn't sell. In the end I sold it for just £100 more than Will's offer. Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 And the neck pickup rout... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, briansbrew said: And the neck pickup rout... Need to see it without pickguard really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 6 minutes ago, Beedster said: Need to see it without pickguard really? I requested he take the guard off.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns-bass Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 7 hours ago, ossyrocks said: When I was selling my '87 PB-62, which I bought from Bass Bros, it was for sale on here for a while. Will did contact me and made me a very fair offer to buy it back. I thanked him and said I would bear it mind if it didn't sell. In the end I sold it for just £100 more than Will's offer. Rob I didn’t know that Will buys from the classifieds here but it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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