Reggaebass Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, Bagman said: Dating Fender pickups by number stamped on the bottom? possible or not? Google has not been successful Normally yes, any pics Bagman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Reggaebass said: Normally yes, any pics Bagman Any pot codes @Bagman ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Serial number on the headstock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, miles'tone said: Serial number on the headstock? Thats the mystery Si, no headstock serial but a date stamp on the heel for 77, it all looks genuine, pots pickups and body are 77 just the lack of serial on the neck. I have contacted Fender for some info on it 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagman Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, Reggaebass said: Normally yes, any pics Bagman The number stamped on the bottom of the bridge pickups 100482 I can figure out how pot codes work however there seems to be different systems for pickups. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, briansbrew said: Thats the mystery Si, no headstock serial but a date stamp on the heel for 77, it all looks genuine, pots pickups and body are 77 just the lack of serial on the neck. I have contacted Fender for some info on it That’s odd if original, unless it was scratched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Bagman said: The number stamped on the bottom of the bridge pickups 100482 I can figure out how pot codes work however there seems to be different systems for pickups. Thanks I found the jazz pickup serial numbers changed over the years, so not 100% sure but as far as I know the last two digits are the year and the 04 is the fourth week, similar to this 82 jazz , hopefully someone more knowledgeable will be along 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, OliverBlackman said: That’s odd if original, unless it was scratched? Here she is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurroundedByManatees Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 The decal isn't correct. Even if it would be a '77 with a late use of the TV decal, the patent numbers don't look like other examples I've found when looking at '76 decals (the patent numbers are supposed to be in 1 line, not 2). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 minutes ago, SurroundedByManatees said: The decal isn't correct. Even if it would be a '77 with a late use of the TV decal, the patent numbers don't look like other examples I've found when looking at '76 decals (the patent numbers are supposed to be in 1 line, not 2). This is the date stamp, is there a chance that the logo has been reapplied at some stage maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyrocks Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SurroundedByManatees said: The decal isn't correct. Even if it would be a '77 with a late use of the TV decal, the patent numbers don't look like other examples I've found when looking at '76 decals (the patent numbers are supposed to be in 1 line, not 2 33 minutes ago, briansbrew said: Here she is Edited March 21 by ossyrocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyrocks Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 34 minutes ago, briansbrew said: Here she is There are no examples of this logo in “The Fender Bass, An Illustrated History” Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles'tone Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 39 minutes ago, briansbrew said: Here she is That's some nice bird's-eye maple though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 21 minutes ago, briansbrew said: This is the date stamp, is there a chance that the logo has been reapplied at some stage maybe The code is correct for a maple board ‘77 P Bass neck. So if the code is Fender legit, then it must of had a new decal. Is the body original finish? Sometimes matching headstocks were done on a refin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, Chiliwailer said: The code is correct for a maple board ‘77 P Bass neck. So if the code is Fender legit, then it must of had a new decal. Is the body original finish? Sometimes matching headstocks were done on a refin. The body is finished in white which has now yellowed and is original , no other signs of a refinish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, briansbrew said: The body is finished in white which has now yellowed and is original , no other signs of a refinish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 17 minutes ago, briansbrew said: I know they often had 2 extra holes in the neck pocket, but there’s a fair few more there - worst case scenario is it’s an old refin that kept the stamps, it happens. I may be wrong, hard to always see in pics. edit - if resprayed, and that’s an if, it could have been put back to the original colour as a stamp seems to go just over the paint, as it would have. Edited March 21 by Chiliwailer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Mark Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 That decal is really interesting. I cannot find another like it anywhere online or in my various books. It doesn't make sense to me that anyone would create a fake that was different to a genuine decal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurroundedByManatees Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, Sparky Mark said: That decal is really interesting. I cannot find another like it anywhere online or in my various books. It doesn't make sense to me that anyone would create a fake that was different to a genuine decal. It's not necessarily intended as being fake, but as part of restoration. Good chance it's a replacement decal imo. As pointed out, there are a lot of drilling holes in the neckpocket. I wouldn't be surprised if the body and neck both have been refinished. Based on this pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, Sparky Mark said: That decal is really interesting. I cannot find another like it anywhere online or in my various books. It doesn't make sense to me that anyone would create a fake that was different to a genuine decal. The guy whom I bought the bass from had it for over 30 years and he didnt get any work done on it so the mystery continues. He did contact Fender a few years ago and they confirmed that it was a 77 neck due to the date code on the heel, to me it just feels right and as you say why would anyone create a fake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, briansbrew said: I haven’t seen overspray like that in the neck pocket on factory examples before. Usually there’s a thin strip of natural wood where the bass was hung for spraying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 The neck Lacquer has the usual chips down the side and the tide mark on the heel is evident... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, briansbrew said: The neck Lacquer has the usual chips down the side and the tide mark on the heel is evident... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briansbrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 12 minutes ago, SurroundedByManatees said: It's not necessarily intended as being fake, but as part of restoration. Good chance it's a replacement decal imo. As pointed out, there are a lot of drilling holes in the neckpocket. I wouldn't be surprised if the body and neck both have been refinished. Based on this pictures. I had a closer look at the decal with magnification and you can see evidence that it was cut with sissors and not as smooth on the edges as a proper factory one but a good decent job all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliwailer Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, briansbrew said: The neck Lacquer has the usual chips down the side and the tide mark on the heel is evident... Neck looks legit, especially with those stamps on the heal. You’re right about the logo, not a chance it’s legit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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