NoRhino Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 We auditioned two candidates for a guitarist role. Both turned up in time for their allocated slot. We'd asked them to prep the same three songs. Candidate 1 used the studio amp and brought his guitars and fx. We know what his own amp is and have no concerns there. He was very nervous even though two of us know him quite well. He was shaking like a leaf and played everything accurately, in time and up to speed. We played through the same songs again. Body language would suggest he will bring something visually to the stage if the nerves settle. Near the end of his time we asked him if he wanted to play something of his choice but he said he was too nervous and would just leave us to see the next guy. Candidate 2 brought his own amp and fx. We followed the same audition process. No outward indication of nerves and he also played very well. This was our first time meeting him. Footered a bit between songs continually adjusting settings but obviously knows the material. He did take the option of an extra song which he played well too. One of the existing band members does wonder what #2 will bring visually. The existing band is having a group call soon to discuss next steps and try to decide who'll be the best man for us. As usual I welcome BC's wise advice and suggestions. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 If both are technically as good as each other, it may well come down to who had the personality you preferred. You have to get on with them too (or at least it helps). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Go with the one who smelled the least. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bay Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 ‘Bring visually’? So it comes down to who you fancy most? Being serious, personality every time, we went with best singer in one of my bands and I have regretted it ever since. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_derby Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Assuming the sniff test is inconclusive, who has the best availability? The best musician in the world is a p.i.t.a. If they can’t or won’t commit to gigs and rehearsals. So, you may have to do some investigation on job, family and other band situations. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedoghouse Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Go with the one you feel will be the best fit as a person - you're going to be spending a long time with them and working as a team. I think we're going to be auditioning for another drummer soon and I know personality and fit will be every bit as important as ability. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoRhino Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: Go with the one who smelled the least. Fortunately they are both clean and inoffensive to the snout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfrasho Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Assuming the 2 guys who know #1 reasonably well and like him as a guy then I'd go with him! The other might end up a complete rocket once he gets to know you! Go with what you know, especially if there's no real difference when it comes to playing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Why not go with both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Heathy said: Why not go with both? That's what Lemmy did when he auditioned Wurzel & Phil Campbell...! It is difficult for anyone to say if they weren't in the room. Assuming that they are equally matched as guitar players and both seem fine on a personal level then Candidate 1 might have the edge if he is more confident (not a bad thing for a lead guitarist). However, Candidate 2 might have a significant advantage on the visual front, which can be a big thing depending on what type of band you are. You just have to balance their respective qualities and then try not to pi*s off the guy you don't give the gig, just in case you need to give him a ring in a few months time...! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Choose the one with the least obtrusive hunchback. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Take them to the pub and see who offers to get the first round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Pick the one who tunes up with the volume off 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 @Drax speaks much truth. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I wouldn't be concerned about the nerves btw. I am an absolute mess with nerves in an audition, or even a soundcheck sometimes. But get me in front of an audience and I'm like a man possessed. If someone had to overcome extreme nervousness and still turned up and played well, it speaks volumes for their determination, character and courage. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I’m gravitating towards the first one. Amp twiddling gets on my wick! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 it's a tough call, you don't really get to know what they're like for a while, our last guitarist seemed a great bloke, to start with, turned he'd got mental health issues and went into fits of depression when we had a less than perfect gig 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 I’m in the same boat - I mean, they both turned up. Which is good. If the guy you know played it well, the nerves don’t matter. If he played it well nervous; how good will he be when calm? Whats the genre of music? I know image is a big deal in Metal. Like the others say...go with your gut. Don’t write either off just yet, as we’ve made errors of judgement in recent months and ended up binning off two guitarists who we swore blind were “the one”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxlin Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Heathy said: Why not go with both? Long-ish anecdote post, sorry. I auditioned as a drummer in the mid 60s, and the band couldn’t decide between me and another bloke. The band was aiming towards being a ‘showband’ (the lineup already included sax and Hammond), and we both had similar ‘Red Silk’ kits, but he was left handed, and set his kit up accordingly. This visual symmetry appealed to the band, so we were both offered, and accepted, the job. Anyway, the next day I phoned the other lad to arrange a time to get together to work out who did what when, but his Dad answered, saying that his lad wasn’t going to be one of two, he was going to contact the BL to insist his lad got the seat. Nice. So I phoned the BL immediately, and he asked if I was happy being one of two. Yes, says I, as that’s what I had agreed to. Ok was the response, you’ve got the job, I don’t want or need that sort of hassle, I want someone we can get on with.... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Starr Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 If they both played equally well then it's a nice problem to have. It's much more nerve wracking in my experience to play in front of people you know than strangers. Maybe that's why no 1 was more nervous. I don't like amp twiddling, if you are a gigging band you need someone who will play the set and not lose the momentum between songs, however he may well have been nervous too and tweaking can be a sign of nerves. There's not enough information to decide really, you could call them back and have them play a little longer maybe? Or ask the 2nd choice if they'd be interested in depping, code for 'are you still available if the other guy doesn't work out'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3below Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Any other factors that they bring to the party? Reliable car? Domestic situation? Daytime job? (unless they are both pro musos), Previous bands?, Previous band mates that know them - reliability / flakiness?, Do they own a rehearsal room,? (I joke not), Politics?, Sense of humour?, who has the quietest amp?, who is fittest for lugging kit about?, Good with PA and mixer? Recording experience? Business management background?, Social media / web development experience? Accountancy / Tax expertise? The list goes on.... Good luck with making a tough decision, being a man of leisure these days I do not miss interviewing and breaking the news to unsuccessful job candidates. As before, could you take both and see how it goes, plenty of reheasal time to see how they shape up before gigs start appearing 'big time' (Not sure if that will ever be the case in Mid Wales since the sheep do not pay well). Edited August 4, 2020 by 3below 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 The one who doesn't have Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyman Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 It sounds like there’s nothing to choose between them musically so they’ve both “passed” that part of the audition. It’s now a question of who fits best Into the “band”. You’re a group of individuals who have to work together as a cohesive unit so you need someone who can support and help build that. Maybe ask them both back for a full rehearsal (each) and try to get a sense of how they fit in. Assuming you do covers, ask them to suggest a song that they know and that you can all work on together and see how they approach the arrangement and being in the driving seat? If it’s that close to call then I think you owe it to both of them and yourselves to take the time to get this right. As already suggested, is there space for them both? Plenty of bands with twin lead guitarists.... Having said all that, if it was me, I’d go with whichever was the quietest. Good luck - it’s a nice problem to have 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I like the first guitarist, I also like the second guitarist, But which one's better? There's only one way to find out... FIIIIIGHT! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christhammer666 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 id say No.1 You say you know him already and such so he may be perfect. the nerves could also just be eagerness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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