Reggaebass Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) I’ve noticed lately a lot of fender jazz basses that are well overpriced from sellers in Japan on eBay Edited November 12, 2020 by Reggaebass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Might have already been said Wooden pickguards Wooden pickup covers Wooden volume / tone knobs Those Warwick wooden tuning pegs Basically wood where there should be metal / plastic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickA Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Drax said: wood where there should be metal ^^ indeed. I do like and own some "coffee table" basses; but wooden knobs and pickups ...bit odd. Like do they have wooden windings and pole pieces ..... Edited November 12, 2020 by NickA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookPassBabtridge Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, LukeFRC said: Reverb prices generally can be a bit bonkers 2 hours ago, Reggaebass said: I’ve noticed lately a lot of fender jazz basses that are well overpriced from sellers in Japan on eBay Yeah you’re both right - having another look the worst examples in terms of price on EBay and Reverb tend to be shops in Japan. Obviously Japan is expensive anyway, but even taking that into account they’re asking for crazy money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) On 12/11/2020 at 09:14, prowla said: Closely followed by 3/1... Only right configuration for a 4 string bass is a 2+2 headstock. The fact that 4 in line headstocks need such a thing as string retainers/trees ought to tell everyone that it is an obvious faulty design. Leo Fender wasn't right, he is just one of countless testaments to how the superior design isn't is always automatically going to be the most popular one (which I guess again is a testament to how the business world works and the general mental capacity of the World's population). Edited November 13, 2020 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Only right configuration for a 4 string bass is a 2+2 headstock. The fact that 4 in line headstocks need such a thing as string retainers/trees ought to tell everyone that is is an obvious faulty design. Leo Fender wasn't right, he is just one of countless testaments to how the superior design isn't is always automatically going to be the most popular one (which I guess again is a testament to how the business world works and the general mental capacity of the World's population). Not faulty Design is form and function. How well it does the job, how it looks doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Only right configuration for a 4 string bass is a 2+2 headstock. The fact that 4 in line headstocks need such a thing as string retainers/trees ought to tell everyone that is is an obvious faulty design. Leo Fender wasn't right, he is just one of countless testaments to how the superior design isn't is always automatically going to be the most popular one (which I guess again is a testament to how the business world works and the general mental capacity of the World's population). Rubbish. Only bridge end linear tuners work, you can tell that all other types of bass are permanently out of tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quilly Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Honey burst, a definite deal breaker for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 "Christmas Ad" - seriously, you're sending me a spam mail to watch your ADVERT !!!!???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono Bolton Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 21:47, Reggaebass said: I’ve noticed lately a lot of fender jazz basses that are well overpriced from sellers in Japan on eBay I saw a Squier Matt Freeman P Bass on ebay for over a grand from a seller in Japan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Any Squier with a price tag over £100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono Bolton Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, prowla said: Any Squier with a price tag over £100. Does that include JVs? SQs? Silver Series? Vistas? Classic Vibes? Or are you just following the belief that if its says 'Squier' on the headstock, it must be crap? Edited November 17, 2020 by Jono Bolton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 22:11, NickA said: I do like and own some "coffee table" basses; but wooden knobs and pickups ...bit odd. Like do they have wooden windings and pole pieces ..... No, but neither do pickups that have plastic covers have plastic pole pieces or windings! I like wooden pickup covers, don't have any now, I did have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Edges. - I like my bass bodies to be contoured, so they don't dig in to my arm or stomach. Club like necks. - i have small hands so necks like the wrong end of a baseball bat are an immediate no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 21:47, Reggaebass said: I’ve noticed lately a lot of fender jazz basses that are well overpriced from sellers in Japan on eBay Word of caution there. Japanese buyers went nuts in the 70's and bought up everything Fender. Demand was huge and some enterprising Americans set up "chop shops" to fuel the demand, not all the basses shipped to Osaka were legit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 22 hours ago, Jono Bolton said: Does that include JVs? SQs? Silver Series? Vistas? Classic Vibes? Or are you just following the belief that if its says 'Squier' on the headstock, it must be crap? Good instruments yes, silly prices, no. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Squier-By-Fender-JV-62-Vintage-Precision-Bass-1983-Made-In-Japan-Export-Model/264936709988 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Squier-By-Fender-JV-Series-Jazz-Bass-1980s-Black/154171577014 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Squier-By-Fender-Affinity-Precision-Bass-Pj-Race-Red-Indian-Laurel-Ochanomizu/313278703626 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Squier-MusicMaster-Vista-Bass/143693859155 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 hour ago, prowla said: Good instruments yes, silly prices, no. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Squier-By-Fender-JV-62-Vintage-Precision-Bass-1983-Made-In-Japan-Export-Model/264936709988 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Squier-By-Fender-JV-Series-Jazz-Bass-1980s-Black/154171577014 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Squier-By-Fender-Affinity-Precision-Bass-Pj-Race-Red-Indian-Laurel-Ochanomizu/313278703626 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Squier-MusicMaster-Vista-Bass/143693859155 So you think a JV Squier shouldn’t be sold for more than £100? if you’ve got one can I buy it off you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I’ve played a few JVs and those early 80’s Fullerton reissues and I really didn’t see the fuss especially for the prices they go for. But then I like most 70’s jazz basses I’ve played which are often described as only good for firewood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I had an SQ (1983) and it was brilliant, amazing in fact - more so than any other Fender. I sold it in desperate times and miss it awfully. Still belongs to a Basschatter who won’t sell it back 😣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 The Squier JV and SQ series are considered to be better instruments than the US made Fenders of the time, so it stands to reason that they will command a higher price. Saying no Squier should be over £100 is kind of like saying that old Tobias basses aren't worth a couple of thousand pounds because the new Toby series is cheap and naff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I’m not sure those old jap basses are significantly ahead of current US models though and go for a similar price. I think these days some buy them as an investment rather than seeking the holy grail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, Doddy said: The Squier JV and SQ series are considered to be better instruments than the US made Fenders of the time, so it stands to reason that they will command a higher price. This is true but, let's be honest, that's not a very high bar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, prowla said: Good instruments yes, silly prices, no. You undermine a reasonable case overpricing some of some examples by undervaluing equally blatantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, OliverBlackman said: I’m not sure those old jap basses are significantly ahead of current US models though and go for a similar price. I think these days some buy them as an investment rather than seeking the holy grail. so you would seek a mythical holy grail rather than a mythical investment. The first set of JV (with Fender logo and Squier series) were very good and also collectable as there's not many of them - they drive a high price because they were good and also cos of the collectible nature of them. As the price of them goes up there comes a market for "JV Squier" - where it serves any seller well to try and pretend that all JV Fender/Squier are created equal (they are not) or that they have US parts and hardware (they do not, at least for basses).... generally though Japanese Fender/Squier are pretty good but seem to have a very large asking price. Are they objectively "better" than a US Fender from that era - the better ones anecdotally are... are they better than current US fender? who knows - I've played some dogs from the US fender factory the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 hours ago, LukeFRC said: So you think a JV Squier shouldn’t be sold for more than £100? if you’ve got one can I buy it off you? Well, maybe I'd run to £150 if it was exceptional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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