Dom in Dorset Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Last night I watched Telstar the Joe Meek Story which I very much enjoyed. One thing I noticed was that most of the actors seemed to have some idea how to play the instruments they were handed by the props department. There were a couple of people that you only saw momentarily holding a guitar but even then it didn't look too uncomfortable. So often a music biopic is spoiled by the fact that the actors look like they have never even held a guitar/bass before. My two pet hates so far are: Bohemian Rhapsody - While the Brian May is quite convincing (apparently he lad lessons with the real BM) the John Deacon looked like he's spent his entire life trying to avoid going near a bass guitar. Even the way he held it when not playing looked awkward. I did enjoy the film but that performance made me wince. Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll - looked like they only cast people who'd never seen a musical instrument being played. Once again I quite enjoyed it but could hardly bare to look during band scenes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Soup Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Yes, pretty annoying. Same in photograph shoots too. If you're an actor, surely you could somehow imitate? I mean hold down something that at least looks like a chord for example!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 The guy who played Johnny Thunders in Room 37: The Mysterious Death of Johnny Thunders was uncanny. The film divided fans but I enjoyed it. That actor was the most convincing piece of casting I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 At a Bass Show, I asked Peter Hook, how he felt about being portrayed in films. He said he was surprised how wrong Ralph Little got it, bearing in mind he knew his ex-wife 😆 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom in Dorset Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Just now, MacDaddy said: At a Bass Show, I asked Peter Hook, how he felt about being portrayed in films. He said he was surprised how wrong Ralph Little got it, bearing in mind he knew his ex-wife 😆 Oddly enough Ralf Little was one of the more convincing ones in Telstar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Soup Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I heard an interview with David Cassidy, and he was expressing the same thoughts as the OP.... about his fellow cast members in the Partridge Family. He lost count of how many times he had to say to Danny Bonaduce: "Danny the bass guitar is plucked, not strummed!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dom in Dorset said: the John Deacon looked like he's spent his entire life trying to avoid going near a bass guitar. To be fair, John Deacon spent the last 20 24 years trying to avoid going near a bass guitar. Edited August 19, 2020 by Stub Mandrel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Eric Idle's stiff waggling fingers make my teeth itch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40hz Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Dom in Dorset said: Last night I watched Telstar the Joe Meek Story which I very much enjoyed. One thing I noticed was that most of the actors seemed to have some idea how to play the instruments they were handed by the props department. There were a couple of people that you only saw momentarily holding a guitar but even then it didn't look too uncomfortable. So often a music biopic is spoiled by the fact that the actors look like they have never even held a guitar/bass before. My two pet hates so far are: Bohemian Rhapsody - While the Brian May is quite convincing (apparently he lad lessons with the real BM) the John Deacon looked like he's spent his entire life trying to avoid going near a bass guitar. Even the way he held it when not playing looked awkward. I did enjoy the film but that performance made me wince. Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll - looked like they only cast people who'd never seen a musical instrument being played. Once again I quite enjoyed it but could hardly bare to look during band scenes. The guy who played John Deacon is Joseph Mazzello, otherwise known as Timmy from Jurassic Park. Funny that you say that regarding him as he plays Bass in real life! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: Eric Idle's stiff waggling fingers make my teeth itch. Wasn't he the only one who couldn't play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I recall that Ralph Macchio had very extensive training from Ry Cooder in order to be able to look convincing when filming Crossroads (the film, not the soap.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 9 hours ago, MacDaddy said: At a Bass Show, I asked Peter Hook, how he felt about being portrayed in films. He said he was surprised how wrong Ralph Little got it, bearing in mind he knew his ex-wife 😆 Hold the front page. Hooky in 'not entirely happy about something' shock. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: Eric Idle's stiff waggling fingers make my teeth itch. No one speaks ill of the Rutles on my watch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, Beedster said: No one speaks ill of the Rutles on my watch They wouldn’t fit on your watch, not even if it was one of those stupidly huge Rolex ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Zakk Wylde was in Rock Star... the guitar parts were fine. But then they let him speak.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushbo Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: Eric Idle's stiff waggling fingers make my teeth itch. Eric Idle is a pretty useful guitarist, but the reason that he may not be 100% convincing as a Bassist here, is the fact that he’s a right handed musician, playing the role of someone who’s left handed. Here’s a little test- flip your bass around the other way and try and play something that sounds like music and look convincing while you do it. Edited August 19, 2020 by rushbo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) Watch a film with a nurse and they will criticise any scenes involving medical procedures, watch a film with a rugby player and they will criticise any scenes involving rugby being played, watch a film with a soldier and they will criticise any scenes involving using weapons correctly. Every moment of a film could be broken down into parts that displease some specialist or other in that particular field, if the story isn’t good enough to forgive such details then watch something else. Monty Python & The Holy Grail - they aren’t really on horses, they are just banging coconuts together. Edited August 19, 2020 by Frank Blank 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Cough. The Dirt. Cough. I did however enjoy Josie and The Pussycats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxlin Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 While I really enjoyed The Two Ronnies’, they were classic examples of finger wavers when it came to ‘playing’ instruments in their sketches, particularly Ronnie Corbett. But a brilliant sketch was Eric Sykes ‘duetting’ guitar with John Williams...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasher80 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 The actors in "Control" apparently had to learn to play instruments for the film... I thought they didn't do a bad job myself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Favourite actor 'musician' in a movie trick- see them sit down at the piano then cutaway to a front shot as they bob around looking pained and emotional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Bassfinger said: I recall that Ralph Macchio had very extensive training from Ry Cooder in order to be able to look convincing when filming Crossroads (the film, not the soap.) I think it was actually Arlen Roth who tutored Macchio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I watched an old movie a few weeks ago starring some guy called Elvis something-or-other. He had an acoustic guitar slung around his neck for half the film but he hardly played it, and when he did he was obviously miming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I think I saw that film too, Jack. Poor fella seemed to have something wrong with his knees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, rasher80 said: The actors in "Control" apparently had to learn to play instruments for the film... I thought they didn't do a bad job myself The actors were fine, but they had Ian Curtis playing an Eastwood! Never mind musicians in movies, let's talk about instruments 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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