Nail Soup Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 What do you basschatters think of Krautrock? Any fans here? Can you give any good examples? And what do you think of the term 'Krautrock' itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Derogatory term given by the British to a very wide genre of music that all the artists hated being called. one such band example is Kraftwerk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floFC Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 The word itself is derogatory indeed.it does however bring a very specific sound to my head and that is the sound of Neu! and Stereolab. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) BIg fan of the style, not of the label. Let's have some Neu! whilst we think about it. Edited August 31, 2020 by ahpook 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Soup Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 39 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: Derogatory term given by the British to a very wide genre of music that all the artists hated being called. Snappy summarry! However, I do think there is one common link which ties the music together. It is the making of a form of rock which a) draws on German heritage/ideas and b) does not copy the style of UK/US rock music. None of the bands bundled together under Krautrock sounded like UK/US rock. No-one applied the term to e.g. Scorpians, so the term was at least somewhat selectively applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Can... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathy Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Can I be the first to suggest the incredible Rammstein. One of their best... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Riva Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 53 minutes ago, ahpook said: BIg fan of the style, not of the label. Let's have some Neu! whilst we think about it. ... which was definitely an inspiration for this! I heard the Hawkwind track years before I even knew that Neu! Existed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Soup Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 I was thinking about what example to post, then this one came up in one of my FB feeds.... so I'll go with Faust - It's a Rainy Day (Sunshine Girl): 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Not forgetting the rather crazed Amon Duul: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 hours ago, floFC said: The word itself is derogatory indeed.it does however bring a very specific sound to my head and that is the sound of Neu! and Stereolab. I cannot see any derogatory issue with this. We get called Limeys and Pommies by the Americans and Aussies respectively. I don't have any gripe with that. I myself have been called a sweaty sock which I know is just rhyming slang for Jock. Again, no problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicVibes Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, ubit said: I cannot see any derogatory issue with this. We get called Limeys and Pommies by the Americans and Aussies respectively. I don't have any gripe with that. I myself have been called a sweaty sock which I know is just rhyming slang for Jock. Again, no problem with it. It's not a case of you don't have a problem with it, it's the fact that the majority do find it offensive. Has the Clapton thread revealed, there is still a long way to go with derogatory comments about different races and religions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, ubit said: I cannot see any derogatory issue with this. We get called Limeys and Pommies by the Americans and Aussies respectively. I don't have any gripe with that. I myself have been called a sweaty sock which I know is just rhyming slang for Jock. Again, no problem with it. It was obviously post war, UK rock wasn’t called Pommie or Limey rock, USA rock wasn’t called Deep fried fatties rock, The German artists as a collective did not like the label, therefore it’s offensive. I guarantee it was not said in an endearing way.... To also bundle everything into the ‘rock’ category is pretty lazy as there were elements or rock, prog, electronic etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Krautrock was essentially progressive German music. Can has been mentioned, but Tangerine Dream should also be named as the two bands leading this genre, Kraftwerk being a bit apart of if. Then came Die Neue Deutsche Welle initiated by ... Kraftwerk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 And Rammstein is not Krautrock at all... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hellzero said: Then came Die Neue Deutsche Welle Yeah, and with it came great bands like Kraut Deep Fried Fatties Freundschaft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Is the term 'Brit-Pop' offensive..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 No, but Brit-Schrott can... 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: Is the term 'Brit-Pop' offensive..? "Brit" isn't a derogatory term, so probably not. I'm sure some bands would take umbrage at being labelled "Pop" though 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) For those who want to understand the Krautrock genre, watch this : Edited August 31, 2020 by Hellzero F*cking YT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxnard Montalvo Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 +1 to Neu. Neu 2 is one of my favourite albums. I'm not a fan of the genre label itself, though. It's lazy, reductive and based on an insult. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whynot Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 It is historically a derogatory term but most people within Germany are oblivious to it. I spent the best part of 3 years touring and recording there in the early 80's as part of the German new wave scene (NDW) and never came across the term once other than used by those outside the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upside downer Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 One of my faves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 We were in Darmstadt a few years ago and we went into a bar. A gentleman went to the toilet and one of our party joked that he might be away for a crap ( Don't ask, it must have been an in joke at the time) When he returned he said to us No, it is Kraut you say, Kraut! We looked at each other puzzled and he left. Then it dawned on us that he had overheard us and misheard the meaning. It was all very confusing and a little embarrassing. The point is right enough he certainly wasn't bothered about being called a Kraut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 As someone of 50% Germanic parentage (Austrian to be precise) I don't care for the term 'krautrock' as in the UK the word 'kraut' is always used in a derogatory context. Also it's a lazy way of lumping a disparate bunch of musicians who only have their nationality in common. Apart from that I generally prefer the 'motorik' sound of Neu to other German bands of the late 60s-70s. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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