Bobo_08 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, stewblack said: Gigged mine on Saturday and received plaudits from musicians in the audience on my sound! You still got the stock pickups in Stew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulderpet Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 28/03/2021 at 22:26, kodiakblair said: They're certainly loud. Scary loud tbh. When I A/B'd them against Duncan QP's , the mixer showed a huge jump in output. Duncan QP Entwistle Neos BTW. That's same bass, same strings, same pickup heights and same recording settings. Seems to be the Neodymium magnets that cause the loud output, seriously tempted to put some Neodymium magnets under the pole pieces on the Duncan QP's in my Jaguar bass but just a bit wary in case I end up demagnetising the Alnico pole pieces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 I can't fault the stock pickups, to be honest. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just fitted fender high mass bridge... Needs a proper setting up.. strings are a bit clanky. I just need some decent chrome tuners now... The HB ones are awful, anyone got advice for direct replacements? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd56hawk Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I think I've recommended this one a dozen times this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 9 hours ago, jd56hawk said: I think I've recommended this one a dozen times this year. You ben recommending this bass to folks? its great for the price and a good modding platform, if that ya thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd56hawk Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 For others, yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymondo Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 06/09/2021 at 10:59, ChrisJaxon said: I acquired a PB20 SBK last December, fitted it with Hipshot tuners, Wilkinson Alinco V pickup, Kiogon loom, and TI Jazz flats, and it is now my fave bass. Indeed it is my g-to bass for our first 2 post-lockdown gigs, ahead of my Yammies! Sounds and plays great. I borrowed it for a song at the opening jam at last weekends Blues festival in Wotton under Edge. I can attest to the fact that it plays beautifully! I had assumed that it was some really expensive Fender when I first put it on, and whilst attempting to not look stupid in front of an audience for the first time in four years,but when I handed it back I noticed the head stock..... If I ever need a replacement for my 30 year old MIJ Pbass I would definitely buy one! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Finally got around to fitting the black scratchplate to my pal's "non stealth" PB-20. Strangest thing , he asked me to A/B the stealth vs non stealth. Stealth seemed very tame compared to the original 20. Course it may well just be down to those individual basses rather than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 17/09/2021 at 21:25, Bobo_08 said: Just fitted fender high mass bridge... Needs a proper setting up.. strings are a bit clanky. I just need some decent chrome tuners now... The HB ones are awful, anyone got advice for direct replacements? Absolutely not picking a fight but wondering what is wrong with the tuners? I've never had a problem with mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 07/09/2021 at 09:51, mcnach said: I can't fault the stock pickups, to be honest. Same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, stewblack said: Absolutely not picking a fight but wondering what is wrong with the tuners? I've never had a problem with mine. Hi Stew, I've not been having a good time with the tuners on this bass, two of the gears got chewed up very quickly, Thomann sent me two replacements no hassle. However when I changed the strings after installing the new bridge, again the gears started to get chewed up and causing the tension to slip. I managed to tune up but I don't think they will last long now. I even lubricated them a little with some Vaseline as suggested a while back, but it seems the metal that the gear is made from is just way too soft for it's intended purpose. Edited September 22, 2021 by Bobo_08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Bobo_08 said: Hi Stew, I've not been having a good time with the tuners on this bass, two of the gears got chewed up very quickly, Thomann sent me two replacements no hassle. However when I changed the strings after installing the new bridge, again the gears started to get chewed up and causing the tension to slip. I managed to tune up but I don't think they will last long now. I even lubricated them a little with some Vaseline as suggested a while back, but it seems the metal that the gear is made from is just way too soft for it's intended purpose. Fair enough, clearly I got lucky - or you didn't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 06/09/2021 at 12:32, Bobo_08 said: You still got the stock pickups in Stew? Sorry I missed this! Yes all is stock except for the @KiOgontone pot switch which I just like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodiakblair Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Bobo_08 said: two of the gears got chewed up very quickly Sounds like they've been assembled back to front , or just not seated properly in the first place. Kmise UK on eBay sold Aklot 22:1 ratio tuners which were drop-ins on HB basses , looks like they've stopped selling those in favour of 26:1. Sadly the 26:1 have a larger mounting plate , think it's the same dimensions as Wilkinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 hours ago, kodiakblair said: Sounds like they've been assembled back to front , or just not seated properly in the first place. Kmise UK on eBay sold Aklot 22:1 ratio tuners which were drop-ins on HB basses , looks like they've stopped selling those in favour of 26:1. Sadly the 26:1 have a larger mounting plate , think it's the same dimensions as Wilkinson. I'm sure I actually looked at this way back, but I will double check if they are back to front or not.... I am actually wondering to try a set of chrome tuners from HB, perhaps they are harder material, would also match the highmass bridge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHUFC BASS Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 4 hours ago, kodiakblair said: Sounds like they've been assembled back to front , or just not seated properly in the first place. Kmise UK on eBay sold Aklot 22:1 ratio tuners which were drop-ins on HB basses , looks like they've stopped selling those in favour of 26:1. Sadly the 26:1 have a larger mounting plate , think it's the same dimensions as Wilkinson. I managed to get a set of Wilkinsons on mine. It ain't pretty looking at the back but it works. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Someone should do a FFT graph of string through vs front loading on the same bass so we will know The Answer to The Question (or one of The Questions anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Geek99 said: Someone should do a FFT graph of string through vs front loading on the same bass so we will know The Answer to The Question (or one of The Questions anyway) That would be interesting... although I don't have a string through bass at the moment. I did write a short script to do just this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Bobo_08 said: That would be interesting... although I don't have a string through bass at the moment. I did write a short script to do just this though. Do brass nuts make a difference Do high mass bridges make a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHUFC BASS Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Geek99 said: Do brass nuts make a difference Do high mass bridges make a difference From my experience high mass bridge allow for better (or more scope) for intonation due to the lengths of the saddle screws as opposed to the stock Fender bridge. As for the sustain argument, I don't think there's a measurable audible difference. I'd also question why a bass player had an absolute need for more sustain - a guitarist yes, but a bass player? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 A note which sustains longer will be decaying slower, and that difference will kick in as soon as the attack is over. Comparing fast scales played on a modern piano and an eighteenth century fortepiano, the difference is enormous. Between two otherwise identical basses with slightly different bridges though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 I added a high mass bridge for aesthetic reasons, as with the mirror pickguard... it was my little nod to Phil Lynotts P-Bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, WHUFC BASS said: From my experience high mass bridge allow for better (or more scope) for intonation due to the lengths of the saddle screws as opposed to the stock Fender bridge. As for the sustain argument, I don't think there's a measurable audible difference. I'd also question why a bass player had an absolute need for more sustain - a guitarist yes, but a bass player? I wasn’t raising the question, merely suggesting that @Bobo_08could lay the ghosts to rest we’d need a whole lot less popcorn Edited September 23, 2021 by Geek99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobo_08 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Share Posted September 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Geek99 said: I wasn’t raising the question, merely suggesting that @Bobo_08could lay the ghosts to rest we’d need a whole lot less popcorn ... I agree it would be a nice little side project, maybe an engineering student out there could even make a undergrad project out of.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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