TheGreek Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Somebody must be watching this... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kramer-DMZ-4000-Bass-Guitar-With-Aluminium-Neck/293777369420?hash=item44667ee94c:g:v6sAAOSwCRVfgwk8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Calling @dmccombe7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Thank you guys. I'm watching it now. Currently at £160 and i've just today sold my DMX lighting rig so could be good to go. Not much in these basses so an easy fix i reckon. Appreciate the heads upas i had given up on finding one that fitted my needs. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Dave, it always comes when you expect it the less. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said: Thank you guys. I'm watching it now. Currently at £160 and i've just today sold my DMX lighting rig so could be good to go. Not much in these basses so an easy fix i reckon. Appreciate the heads upas i had given up on finding one that fitted my needs. Dave Are you going to hang it on the wall, too? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTool Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said: Thank you guys. I'm watching it now. Currently at £160 and i've just today sold my DMX lighting rig so could be good to go. Not much in these basses so an easy fix i reckon. Appreciate the heads upas i had given up on finding one that fitted my needs. Dave So, still resisting the starshaped Warwick then Dave...🙄😲😆😆😆 Think TalkTalk's bassist had the fretless version of that Kramer, tasty 😉👌🏼 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Indeed, Paul Webb used a fretless Kramer with one single P-Bass pickup. Not 100% sure it was a DMZ 4000 though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Happy Jack said: Are you going to hang it on the wall, too? Certainly not. Use it for some punch in 70's Glam band. But yes it will hang on the wall beside my other toys when not in use. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, BassTool said: So, still resisting the starshaped Warwick then Dave...🙄😲😆😆😆 Think TalkTalk's bassist had the fretless version of that Kramer, tasty 😉👌🏼 Pass on the Warwick star bass but i've been looking for a Kramer DMZ4000 or 4001 for a long time now. Paul Webb did use either the 4000 or 4001. Was one of the main reasons i was looking as i liked the tone he got with it but i don't want a fretless one. Dave Edited October 13, 2020 by dmccombe7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 One of my favourite basses to record with. Too heavy to gig with these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 55 minutes ago, oldslapper said: One of my favourite basses to record with. Too heavy to gig with these days. Are they quite heavy ? i never checked the weight. Rookie mistake from me and i should know better. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Never weighed it Dave, just from memory. Tended to use it for certain songs on a few gigs, never all way through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 They don't call it heavy metal for nothing ... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 @dmccombe7 As mentioned elsewhere, my 450 B is 4.505 kilos, my DMZ 6000 B is 4.690 kilos and my The Duke Deluxe Trans Red is 3.665 kilos. Finally not that heavy for such infinite sustain basses. So a good guess for a DMZ 4000 would be around 4.250 kilos (no Bad*ss, only one pickup, less pots, no backplate, that would be 400 to 500 grams less than say my DMZ 6000 B). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Hellzero said: @dmccombe7 As mentioned elsewhere, my 450 B is 4.505 kilos, my DMZ 6000 B is 4.690 kilos and my The Duke Deluxe Trans Red is 3.665 kilos. Finally not that heavy for such infinite sustain basses. So a good guess for a DMZ 4000 would be around 4.250 kilos (no Bad*ss, only one pickup, less pots, no backplate, that would be 400 to 500 grams less than say my DMZ 6000 B). What's that in real weight 4.25Kg is approx 9.25ibs so not horrendous by any means. Appreciate that's a guesstimate. Price is starting to go up on it and still 2 days to go. There's another one for sale but its offers £950. Think that might be there a while but its in good condition. Out of my reach at that with Xmas coming soon. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 This (expired) listing puts weight at 9 lb: https://www.rivercityguitars.com/listing/1978-kramer-dmz-4000-rare-active-bass-aluminum-neck/18093757 Being maple it won’t be light, but I’ve never found any Kramer to be particularly heavy There’s a backplate FS too on eBay (to replace the missing one), but it’d add £100 to the total price: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1980s-Kramer-Aluminum-Neck-Large-Pots-Cover-Plate-Original/333406112778?hash=item4da08d8c0a:g:CgEAAOSw0Ehd1gh1 - easier to make your own or get a metals workshop to fabricate one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 For those still living in the Middle ages : 4.250 kilos is 9.370 lbs. 4.505 kilos is 9.932 lbs. 4.690 kilos is 10.340 lbs. Welcome to modern days, where since 1999 the royal measures are supposed to be part of the past... Yek yek. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Normal Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 17 hours ago, Hellzero said: For those still living in the Middle ages : 4.250 kilos is 9.370 lbs. 4.505 kilos is 9.932 lbs. 4.690 kilos is 10.340 lbs. Welcome to modern days, where since 1999 the royal measures are supposed to be part of the past... Yek yek. 😁 1lb is 7000 grains of wheat, which is why our 'murican friends weigh their gunpowder in grains. I'm lucky in that my stingray only weighs 0.15 bushels and is 0.0000651073 Wales units in size. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 18 hours ago, Hellzero said: For those still living in the Middle ages : 4.250 kilos is 9.370 lbs. 4.505 kilos is 9.932 lbs. 4.690 kilos is 10.340 lbs. Welcome to modern days, where since 1999 the royal measures are supposed to be part of the past... Yek yek. 😁 Now that we're out of EU we'll probably go back to old money, real weights and measures and proper feet and inches. Nane o that new fangled metric nonsense. Can't wait to go back in time and live in the 3rd world again. Dave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 You are mistaken the imperial pound (lb) with the avoirdupois pound (lb av). They do not weight the same and only 1 lb av is 16 ounces or 7000 grains, but the earlier lb av was 6992 grains. 😂 🤫 You gotta fight for your right to part ... it ! You can also use the French pound which doesn't weight the same from town to town. Dividing is always a good way to gain power, gun powder power in this case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Sad, so so sad that its down to splitting grains. I give up. Time to drink 🍺🍷🥃 Dave 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Make mine a hectare ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: Make mine a hectare ... Do you want ice in that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Happy Jack said: Make mine a hectare ... I’ve got a couple of acres, I think my trousers are too tight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Ell, no ! Here comes the fathom of the opera. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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