tom1946 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Looking for something P shaped, bright red with a maple board. I have made a few like this but were made of cheap parts and would like something professional and good. Off the shelf preferred. /discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Sandberg Superlight series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Bassman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 +1 Sandberg Suoerlight Series might fit the bill. Bass Direct might have something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 One word: Neckdive. Or should that be Neck Dive? In which case, that's just two words ... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: One word: Neckdive. Or should that be Neck Dive? In which case, that's just two words ... What the superlight basses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 As well as Sandberg's Superlight line, which are guaranteed to be light, sometimes you will find a non-Superlight which is still very light; e.g. https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Sandberg_VS4_FR_SCA.html is 3.3kg. Sandberg's P bass models are the 'VS, 'VM', and 'VT'. Some Maruszczyks are also very light; e.g. https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/MARUSZCZYK_Jake_4p_PJ_Vintage_White.html also 3.3kg, but as with Sandberg there are some heavier ones as well, so get an accurate weight (if buying a bass which already exists) or order a custom build. Their P bass model is called the 'Jake'. Neither the Sandberg TT5 (3.3kg) nor the Maruszczyk Jake 4 (3.2kg) I own/owned have neck dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Red? Yes Maple board? Yes Professional? Yes Good? Yes Off the shelf? Well, sort of 😉 7lbs or less? Near as damn it (7lbs 7oz) It's not a P, but don't get hung up on that. If I didn't have one already, it would be gone by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 G&L M2000??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Cuzzie said: What the superlight basses? Lightest Precision I've ever owned is my Mike Lull 54P. With a strap, the bass weighs exactly 8lbs, whilst being and looking like a Precision. If you want to take that down to 7lbs or less, then that means losing a pound from the body while the weight of the neck and headstock remain the same. It may be possible to do that without creating a bass that makes a Thunderbird look like the paragon of stability, but I'm really not sure how. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineweasel Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, jrixn1 said: As well as Sandberg's Superlight line, which are guaranteed to be light, sometimes you will find a non-Superlight which is still very light; e.g. https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Sandberg_VS4_FR_SCA.html is 3.3kg. Sandberg's P bass models are the 'VS, 'VM', and 'VT'. I don't think you can get a V Superlight off the shelf, it would have to be a custom order. Maybe this standard VS is worth investigating? https://www.pmtonline.co.uk/sandberg-california-vs-4-high-gloss-metallic-red-maple-black-dots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: If you want to take that down to 7lbs or less, then that means losing a pound from the body while the weight of the neck and headstock remain the same. Sandberg Superlight neck, not just the body, is also made from a lighter wood (Norwegian maple?). 8 minutes ago, pineweasel said: I don't think you can get a V Superlight off the shelf, it would have to be a custom order. Maybe this standard VS is worth investigating? https://www.pmtonline.co.uk/sandberg-california-vs-4-high-gloss-metallic-red-maple-black-dots This is the only one I ever saw: https://www.thomann.de/gb/sandberg_california_ii_vm_sl_4_pf_csb.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, Happy Jack said: Lightest Precision I've ever owned is my Mike Lull 54P. With a strap, the bass weighs exactly 8lbs, whilst being and looking like a Precision. If you want to take that down to 7lbs or less, then that means losing a pound from the body while the weight of the neck and headstock remain the same. It may be possible to do that without creating a bass that makes a Thunderbird look like the paragon of stability, but I'm really not sure how. When I played the prototype in the Sandberg factory there was absolutely no neck dive at all, unless they have vastly changed the instruments I can envisage how neck dive would suddenly appear. The body wood on that batch was Cedar, they have moved to Paulownia (or empress which G&L call it and use extensively) and yes @jrixn1 they use Norwegian maple for the neck instead of Canadian which is lighter, possibly a bit snappier, but equally as stable. With the lighter weight wood, you probably really need the pre-amp for a bit more punch/heft, but the Sandberg black label pick ups on their own are good enough, that of course adds a little weight, but is a necessary one. All in all, no neck dive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I used to have a very lightweight P style Ibanez Roadster bass. Single P pickup and maple board, really light and good to play. I found out that it was a ply body when I stripped the black pint off to make it a natural finish, but if you can find one 80’s vintage don’t let ply put you off it was a great sounding bass and light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1946 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 Thanks guys, some stuff there that I didn't know about, I'll go and investigate and report back when I have something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Oh and how can I forget - Status Stealth, one of the finest basses ever made known to man will be hovering at that mark, depending how many strings you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Modulus Graphite Revolite. Not exactly a Precision, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubster Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Mike Lull basses are the lightest I have owned but high $$$ new. Used prices much friendlier . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tubster said: Mike Lull basses are the lightest I have owned but high $$$ new. Used prices much friendlier . Yes, Lull’s are excellent. Not a maple board, but if I wanted a red P, then this would be the one for me. https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Mike_Lull_PJ4_Fiesta_Red.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tthiggins Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Not sure of the weight of this but my Cort gb74 is the lightest solid body bass I've ever had ..just over 7lb https://www.cortguitars.com/product/item.php?ca_id=103020&it_id=1547002327&page=2#tab_Specifications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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