Andyjr1515 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Posted November 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jabba_the_gut said: Look forward to seeing your build progress - presumably you'll be taking this to the SW bash next year?.... No - I suspect @Jus Lukin would be a bit miffed if I still had it then Mind you...if @Frank Blank can make the SW bash all the way from his, you never know...we may be able to persuade @Jus Lukin (it's worth it for the food alone!) Quote
HazBeen Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 Love it! Although 3 Sims is just showing off 1 1 Quote
Frank Blank Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, Andyjr1515 said: No - I suspect @Jus Lukin would be a bit miffed if I still had it then Mind you...if @Frank Blank can make the SW bash all the way from his, you never know...we may be able to persuade @Jus Lukin (it's worth it for the food alone!) It’s roughly a 450 mile round trip for me, I’d do it if it were twice as far, the food, the people, it’s a superb Bash. 2 Quote
Frank Blank Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 6 hours ago, TheGreek said: JOOI - if two SimS pups give 15 permutations, how many do you get from three? Eleventy seven. 1 2 Quote
Jus Lukin Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 13 hours ago, Andyjr1515 said: No - I suspect @Jus Lukin would be a bit miffed if I still had it then Mind you...if @Frank Blank can make the SW bash all the way from his, you never know...we may be able to persuade @Jus Lukin (it's worth it for the food alone!) I've never been to a bass bash- it's just over a 400 mile round trip for me, but I might be able to tie it in with a few days away with Mrs Lukin. I'll see how it all pans out in '21! 1 Quote
Jus Lukin Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) It's really not the point of choosing the SimS pickups, but I'm stumped on the total number of pickup options. I've got 9 single pickup options and 27 doubles which gives the 36. I hit my mathematical limit on the triples, though. Writing a list or tapping out the possibilities with my fingertips, the ol' cauliflower wheezes to a halt at 21. The formulae are beyond me as it's a mix of permutation and combination, I think. So 57 is my probably wrong sum. Regardless, although I've never named a bass before, '42' seems quite an apt moniker for this one! Edited November 17, 2020 by Jus Lukin 1 3 Quote
SpondonBassed Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 Paging the resident mathematician from the DoI; @leftybassman392... Quote
SpondonBassed Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 41 minutes ago, Jus Lukin said: Regardless, although I've never named a bass before, '42' seems quite an apt moniker for this one! I like that a LOT. Especially if you have a Don't Panic sticker made up for it. 1 Quote
Jus Lukin Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 The more I think about it, it ties in nicely. Bass has certainly given my life meaning, and this design was only reached after a long period of considerable pondering. It will probably have the dowdy brown looks of Arthur Dent in his dressing gown, and electronics almost preposterous enough for the bass player from Disaster Area! 1 1 Quote
leftybassman392 Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: Paging the resident mathematician from the DoI; @leftybassman392... You rang? 1 3 Quote
Andyjr1515 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, leftybassman392 said: You rang? Three pickups each with three configurations (Humbucker; P-bass split; Jazz 'single coil') and themselves able to be combined in four ways (bridge + middle; bridge + neck; middle + neck; bridge + middle +neck) How many combinations altogether (ie how many sounds, assuming each combination is a discernibly different sound)? There is a prize - but unfortunately, due to Covid 19 restrictions there's no chance, mate there may be difficulties in the fulfilment of our obligations to you. 2 Quote
leftybassman392 Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Andyjr1515 said: Three pickups each with three configurations (Humbucker; P-bass split; Jazz 'single coil') and themselves able to be combined in four ways (bridge + middle; bridge + neck; middle + neck; bridge + middle +neck) How many combinations altogether (ie how many sounds, assuming each combination is a discernibly different sound)? There is a prize - but unfortunately, due to Covid 19 restrictions there's no chance, mate there may be difficulties in the fulfilment of our obligations to you. So, you have 3 essentially identical pickups, each of which has 3 configurations, and you have 4 different switching options as between the 3 pickups. Is that right? Assuming the above, you can take each switching option and deal with it separately. Option 1: B+M: you have 3x3 = 9 options Option 2: B+N: likewise you have 9 options Option 3: M+N: again, you have 9 options Option 4: B+M+N: you have 3x3x3 = 27 options. Total options = 9+9+9+27 = 54 options. Theoretically they should all give different results; whether anybody would notice all the differences is an entirely different question of course... Edited November 17, 2020 by leftybassman392 3 Quote
Andyjr1515 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Posted November 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: I like that a LOT. Especially if you have a Don't Panic sticker made up for it. When I play, folks DO panic and shove any d**n thing they can find in their ears. Pete and I used to play in a venue where the emergency exit opened out straight onto the road. I used to have to do a quick safety briefing before each gig along the lines of, "The safest exit is back through the door you came in. However, if you are just too desperate to get out quickly, there is an emergency exit over there - but please be careful because there may be passing traffic." Generally, they were willing to risk being knocked over. 1 Quote
Andyjr1515 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, leftybassman392 said: So, you have 3 essentially identical pickups, each of which has 3 configurations, and you have 4 different switching options as between the 3 pickups. Is that right? That is correct 1 Quote
leftybassman392 Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Andyjr1515 said: That is correct Solution in my previous post. 1 Quote
jrixn1 Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Jus Lukin said: I've got 9 single pickup options 18 minutes ago, Andyjr1515 said: Three pickups [...] combined in four ways (bridge + middle; bridge + neck; middle + neck; bridge + middle +neck) You can solo a pickup, or not? 1 Quote
Jus Lukin Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 Yes, each pickup will have an on/off switch, rather than all going to a selector, so all and any options will be available. 1 Quote
leftybassman392 Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Jus Lukin said: Yes, each pickup will have an on/off switch, rather than all going to a selector, so all and any options will be available. That changes the result a bit. In addition to the 54 options listed above you would have an additional 3+3+3 = 9 options. New total would therefore be 54+9 = 63 options 1 Quote
SpondonBassed Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 I don't suppose you'd have all three together...? Quote
leftybassman392 Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 Just before I go, and without wishing to criticise the design in any way, the words 'sledgehammer' and 'nut' spring unbidden to mind. 1 Quote
Jus Lukin Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, leftybassman392 said: That changes the result a bit. In addition to the 54 options listed above you would have an additional 3+3+3 = 9 options. New total would therefore be 54+9 = 63 options Good lord, that's ridiculous! I'm not sure we've mentioned yet that the neck pickup may also be routable to a second output for Ric-O-Sound-esque dual channel stuff too! 😄 Thanks for doing the sums- even if I had arrived at the correct number I wouldn't have trusted that I was accurate! 8 minutes ago, SpondonBassed said: I don't suppose you'd have all three together...? 2 minutes ago, leftybassman392 said: Just before I go, and without wishing to criticise the design in any way, the words 'sledgehammer' and 'nut' spring unbidden to mind. The irony is that there are only six or so main configurations I'm aiming for- the rest are potentially useful, but essentially collateral damge! 2 Quote
leftybassman392 Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jus Lukin said: Good lord, that's ridiculous! I'm not sure we've mentioned yet that the neck pickup may also be routable to a second output for Ric-O-Sound-esque dual channel stuff too! 😄 Thanks for doing the sums- even if I had arrived at the correct number I wouldn't have trusted that I was accurate! The irony is that there are only six or so main configurations I'm aiming for- the rest are potentially useful, but essentially collateral damge! You're welcome. Just for comparison, I had Rob Williams make me a 3-pickup custom Telecaster a few years ago. It has a tappable HB at the bridge and SCs in the middle and neck positions. With a bit of trick wiring he got it to give 11 different combinations. I can tell the difference between any of them back-to-back, but in isolation I think I'd struggle with some of them. Like you though, I only ever use a few of them on anything like a regular basis. Edited November 17, 2020 by leftybassman392 Quote
Andyjr1515 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Posted November 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, leftybassman392 said: Solution in my previous post. Blast! Your prize might not be - Covid restrictions and all that 1 Quote
Andyjr1515 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Andyjr1515 said: Blast! Your prize might not be - Covid restrictions and all that Yes - spot on @leftybassman392. I got my 3x3x3 wrong. No change there, then 1 Quote
Andyjr1515 Posted November 17, 2020 Author Posted November 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, jrixn1 said: You can solo a pickup, or not? Oh - of course you can! Fellas - ignore me. And fellas I've built basses for - check I've put the right number of frets on your builds 1 Quote
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