Al Krow Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Looks interesting and just posting this here in case of interest to any fellow BC'ers - I've not tried it myself! Remote Presentation: The Stanley Clarke Signature Acoustic Preamp - Bass Musician Magazine, The Face of Bass 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Yes, that looks interesting. I wonder how it compares to the new Headway. I’m considering getting a QSC K10 active full range cab with a preamp like this. That is when gigs resume, if and when. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr zed Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) That looks superb. Seems to have the same functionality as the Radial Tonebone Pz Pre (my pre of choice) but the TB only has 1 eq strip for both channels whereas this has 1 for each. Very cool indeed. Pricing looks similar too and both EBS and Radial know how to build a quality product. Edited December 12, 2020 by mr zed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, mr zed said: That looks superb. Seems to have the same functionality as the Radial Tonebone Pz Pre (my pre of choice) but the TB only has 1 eq strip for both channels whereas this has 1 for each. Very cool indeed. I guess particularly neat if you're wanting to quickly and easily swap between EUB and electric bass mid set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr zed Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, Al Krow said: I guess particularly neat if you're wanting to quickly and easily swap between EUB and electric bass mid set. Exactly. With the Tonebone you have to find a compromise so that both DB & EB sound good via the eq. This solves that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, mr zed said: Exactly. With the Tonebone you have to find a compromise so that both DB & EB sound good via the eq. This solves that. Hmmm...that ability alone does make this a very attractive option, and EBS have a great rep for their preamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyl Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Wow - this looks fab. Especially if you arco occasionally, or need a boost for that solo spot. Or of course are doubling on electric. I wish I knew this was coming when I spent on my Tonebone Bigshot and various pedal preamps/eqs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I've already put my name down to get one for a video review in Guitar Interactive - It should be over soonish. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr zed Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Dood said: I've already put my name down to get one for a video review in Guitar Interactive - It should be over soonish. Please let us know when you’ve done the review Dood - colour me very interested. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) Love the fact that it has variable HPF - that would be great in itself, but as an alternative it offers a variable frequency notch filter to deal with specific frequency resonance: you don't get to see that on your average EQ pedal. These are available on both channels - so you could have classic HPF on Channel A and notch filter on Channel B (or vice versa). And all that is in addition to semi-para mids. Very very neat! Parallel loop for the rest of your pedal board if you're using, and then it seems to me to offer two separate outputs - one to go into your amp plus an additional DI out (with speaker sim) to simultaneously(?) run straight to the PA. Oh and the inputs can be blended A+B as well as being alternative A OR B. And it's all analogue which should virtually eliminate both latency and any potential comb filtering that you could encounter with digital pedals when combining two channels. For good measure it doubles up as a headphone amp. Running out of reasons not to get one of these as and when I start gigging my EUB alongside my electric! Edited December 12, 2020 by Al Krow 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 And it has phase reverse. It has everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, bassace said: And it has phase reverse. It has everything. Although I've heard it mentioned, I've not really used that particular wizzardy - talk me through where / what you would be using that for? 11 hours ago, Dood said: I've already put my name down to get one for a video review in Guitar Interactive - It should be over soonish. Will you be reviewing it with a double bass and/or EUB as well as a standard electric fretless bass with piezzo pups? That would be very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr zed Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 40 minutes ago, bassace said: And it has phase reverse. It has everything. Yes.....it does. It is also 9v which helps. The Radial Tonebone pz-pre is 15v. The EBS will power up on the board easier. The pz-pre is absolutely awesome, great sound quality and great build. For me it’s the best acoustic pre amp out there - until now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Al Krow said: ...what you would be using that for? ... There are occasions, notably with amplified acoustic instruments, where the sound from the instrument and the sound from the amplification combine, usually at specific frequencies, to start feeding back, or sounding 'boomy' or 'ringing'. Phase reversal can help there, as a phase-reversed amp sound tends to cancel out the acoustic sound, so bringing clarity. Much depends on the stage, venue, proximity of the amp, so it can't be a permanent, 'built-in' thing; it's used by listening to see what sounds best in any one situation. If there's such an issue, phase reversal can be very useful indeed. If there are never such issues, it won't fix what doesn't need fixing. Hope this helps. Edited December 13, 2020 by Dad3353 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Here is the link to the manual : https://ebssweden.com/content2/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/SCPRE_manualA6.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Looks like a decent pre - I wouldn't be using it just for acoustic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) Been pointed out to me that I can use the two inputs "separately" on my Helix HX Effects and set up dedicated EQ patches for EUB and bass, so it looks like I haven't dealt with all my excuses for shelling out £300 on one of these just yet... ...which is all good advice if I didn't subsequently go and sell my HX Effects, lol. Roll on the Hotone Ampero2 Stomp in May / June... Edited February 22, 2021 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyl Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Has anyone managed to try this preamp yet? I guess not exactly a great time for manufacturers to be launching new gear! Im seriously considering. Have just put my EA Micro up for sale to raise funds! https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/446437-euphonic-audio-micro/?tab=comments#comment-4391023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 FYI, I've just ordered an EBS Microbass 3, which is the electric bass equivalent of the Stanley Clark acoustic one. I didn't try it out first, so it's on the strength of YT reviews; I've been dissatisfied with my setup for a while and when on reviewer said it can be thought of as an effects "hub" it hit the spot. One thing I would've liked, is an extra output in addition to the FX loop, so I could daisy-chain a 2nd board, but that's probably a step too far anyway (though using one of the DI outputs with an unbalanced converter would do it). If it goes to plan, it's going to elbow my SansAmps off my pedalboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, prowla said: FYI, I've just ordered an EBS Microbass 3, which is the electric bass equivalent of the Stanley Clark acoustic one. I wouldn't describe the Microbass 3 as just for electric bass: the option for 10 Mohms input impedance and the notch filter are acoustic features. The Stanley Clarke does have the HPFs though, but no tuner! They both have good features. As a doubler, I have the MicroBass 3 and am not going to swap it for the Stanley Clarke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 4 hours ago, jrixn1 said: I wouldn't describe the Microbass 3 as just for electric bass: the option for 10 Mohms input impedance and the notch filter are acoustic features. The Stanley Clarke does have the HPFs though, but no tuner! They both have good features. As a doubler, I have the MicroBass 3 and am not going to swap it for the Stanley Clarke. It's more about where they've targeted the product, of course. The Microbass does have a distortion channel, rather than identical A & B. (Though actually, that might've been good too!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrixn1 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, prowla said: The Microbass does have a distortion channel, Yes, and I'm glad it does - sounds great with my P bass. It's my almost ideal pedal; just a HPF on channel A would make it perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I would’ve liked two channels for my Rics, but I think I’ll survive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereoplayer Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, prowla said: I would’ve liked two channels for my Rics, but I think I’ll survive! It looks as if it has two channels. But only one output. I was thinking of my stereo basses too! Maybe it would be interesting using with my stereo basses to a one amp situation. I'm pretty sure it costs quite a bit! Edited February 22, 2021 by stereoplayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 7 hours ago, stereoplayer said: It looks as if it has two channels. But only one output. I was thinking of my stereo basses too! Maybe it would be interesting using with my stereo basses to a one amp situation. I'm pretty sure it costs quite a bit! Both the Stanley Clarke and the Microbass 3 have 2 channels. The 2 channels on the Microbass are different: one is pure and one is distortion, though there is a switch to make them series or parallel. You can wire the FX loop as stereo and then the XLR outputs become left and right. It's going to be "interesting" figuring out how to use it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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