I have been ripped off (by Mick Mason of Leicester - Facebook scammer/thief)

[TheGreek]

10 hours ago, Belka said:

https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/guitar-hard-case-for-bass-or-guitar-/1394881014

https://www.gumtree.com/profile/accounts/1b8724625a0e9b167460f7e15574815e

He's on Gumtree now. No Sansamp however.

Also reported...

[40hz]

5 minutes ago, TheGreek said:

Also reported...

Also, also reported.

[warwickhunt]

7 minutes ago, 40hz said:

Also, also reported.

Oh go on then!  

[fury]

This guy has my money and owes me a pedal. I'm investigating him now, trying to get in touch for my money back.

[Mike]

25 minutes ago, fury said:

This guy has my money and owes me a pedal. I'm investigating him now, trying to get in touch for my money back.

Good luck - have you read this whole thread? Hope you manage it.

[fury]

7 minutes ago, Mike said:

Good luck - have you read this whole thread? Hope you manage it.

Only found it today but read the highlights! He said he'll send me a refund tomorrow but we'll see.

[warwickhunt]

3 minutes ago, fury said:

Only found it today but read the highlights! He said he'll send me a refund tomorrow but we'll see.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't hold your breath!  

He has used that line with every single person he has scammed so far.

[fury]

3 minutes ago, warwickhunt said:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't hold your breath!  

He has used that line with every single person he has scammed so far.

No breath being held, but crossing my fingers. I'll definitely be following it up with Action Fraud. I also happen to have a mutual friend with Mick on Facebook, who I've messaged to see if he can get me any more details on this guy.

[warwickhunt]

If you want his details (name. home address, phone number etc) they are all readily available on this thread and various other FB groups.  It also takes about 5 minutes to find out where his next gigs etc might be (covid dependent).

All of this info is in the public domain, no secrets being disclosed.

[prowla]

48 minutes ago, fury said:

No breath being held, but crossing my fingers. I'll definitely be following it up with Action Fraud. I also happen to have a mutual friend with Mick on Facebook, who I've messaged to see if he can get me any more details on this guy.

Hope you are successful in getting it refunded.

Do share the Action Fraud case number when you get it; correlating them all may well help.

You can also contact Leicester Police on the link on the previous page.

Someone also observed that one of his bands' FB page is back up now...

[prowla]

It's whack-a-mole time!

The two ads were pulled, but have been re-posted.

https://www.gumtree.com/profile/accounts/1b8724625a0e9b167460f7e15574815e

[ambient]

I thought you could leave feedback for someone on Gumtree? I can’t see how to now, but I know you used to be able to.

[prowla]

The re-listed items are still there on Gumtree.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/other-guitar-accessories/bass-guitar-hard-case/1394999566

https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-bass-amplifiers/bass-amplifier-/1394999409

Edited January 17, 2021 by prowla

[ped]

14 minutes ago, ForbiddenWytch said:

I'll say it again as it seems to have been deleted by the powers that be. There is no use reporting Mick to Gumtree as they won't do anything about it. I've been in contact with them before over a fraudulent seller on there who I had a police case for and they don't care. They'll tell you "they'll look in to it" and totally palm it off. 

Mods, instead of removing my post that's actually helpful, why don't you remove all the bulk posts of "reported" instead? 

Maybe cut the mods some slack?

[prowla]

32 minutes ago, ForbiddenWytch said:

Worth having the links here but he'll just create another account and Gumtree won't do anything about it.

Like I said; it’s whack-a-mole. 

[Dad3353]

To keep this topic readable, please can we just: Keep to reported facts and updates about case progression. Thank you.

[ForbiddenWytch]

26 minutes ago, prowla said:

Like I said; it’s whack-a-mole. 

Medusa comes to mind. Cut one snake off and 10 more appear. He's also using the name "Mike" instead of "Mick" on Gumtree to avoid being found under Mick Mason on there.

[Dad3353]

We'd rather have posts directly relating to this topic; discussion on the workings of other social media platforms may continue in another topic, but not here. Thanks again.

[fury]

On 17/01/2021 at 12:31, prowla said:

Hope you are successful in getting it refunded.

Do share the Action Fraud case number when you get it; correlating them all may well help.

You can also contact Leicester Police on the link on the previous page.

Someone also observed that one of his bands' FB page is back up now...

He sent my money back this morning! I told him that l'd let you guys know that he's now giving out refunds, but I'll still be reporting him for attempted fraud.

Best of luck to anyone else dealing with Mick Mason - feel free to get in touch with me if you want more contact info for him!

[prowla]

1 hour ago, fury said:

He sent my money back this morning! I told him that l'd let you guys know that he's now giving out refunds, but I'll still be reporting him for attempted fraud.

Best of luck to anyone else dealing with Mick Mason - feel free to get in touch with me if you want more contact info for him!

How did he do the refund?

It has been pointed out that it’s still fraud, even after it’s been refunded; I think the line of demarcation is when money has changed hands. 

Edited January 18, 2021 by prowla

[Maude]

1 hour ago, fury said:

He sent my money back this morning! I told him that l'd let you guys know that he's now giving out refunds, but I'll still be reporting him for attempted fraud.

Best of luck to anyone else dealing with Mick Mason - feel free to get in touch with me if you want more contact info for him!

As far as I'm aware it's not 'attempted' fraud, it is fraud. 

He set up a bogus advert for a pedal he doesn't have (even if he did have one he can't sell it to everyone) purely to trick people into sending him money. You fell for this trick and sent him money and recieved no goods in return, and were never going to. He defrauded you of your money. Only your actions have made him return it. He still defrauded you. 

 

[Bassmanjack]

1 hour ago, fury said:

He sent my money back this morning! I told him that l'd let you guys know that he's now giving out refunds, but I'll still be reporting him for attempted fraud.

Best of luck to anyone else dealing with Mick Mason - feel free to get in touch with me if you want more contact info for him!

Wow he must have got some cash over the weekend. There are still a load of us musicians who have worked for him during 2020 who are still waiting to be paid. He seems to pick and choose who he pays, I guess it depends who shouts loudest. I've been waiting since September

 

[prowla]

1 hour ago, Bassmanjack said:

Wow he must have got some cash over the weekend. There are still a load of us musicians who have worked for him during 2020 who are still waiting to be paid. He seems to pick and choose who he pays, I guess it depends who shouts loudest. I've been waiting since September

 

I feel for you.

I think he's compartmentalised the fraudulent selling from the ripping off fellow musicians fees.

[fury]

2 hours ago, prowla said:

How did he do the refund?

It has been pointed out that it’s still fraud, even after it’s been refunded; I think the line of demarcation is when money has changed hands. 

Received the money by bank transfer. After speaking to one of my police officer friends, you're right, it is still fraud so I'll be reporting him to the relevant parties!

Mick seems to insist that people in this thread are fake profiles or simply liars, and that he's made a report with the police. I've asked him for the crime reference number to see if they'd like to hear my take on the story, but I think I'm more likely to see a SansAmp pedal on my doorstep tomorrow morning.

Sorry to hear about those still waiting on their money, with any luck this guy will be dealt with soon enough!

[binky_bass]

1 minute ago, fury said:

Received the money by bank transfer. After speaking to one of my police officer friends, you're right, it is still fraud so I'll be reporting him to the relevant parties!

Mick seems to insist that people in this thread are fake profiles or simply liars, and that he's made a report with the police. I've asked him for the crime reference number to see if they'd like to hear my take on the story, but I think I'm more likely to see a SansAmp pedal on my doorstep tomorrow morning.

Sorry to hear about those still waiting on their money, with any luck this guy will be dealt with soon enough!

Every person here, with the exception of a few new comers that came to the party because of Mick and his scamming ways, is a legitimate person with mostly years of posts and activities on the site. 

Mick has proven himself on many many occasions to say absolutely anything and everything to make himself seem legitimate, he is not. The history of documented illegal action undertaken by Mick is quite staggering.

The best thing you can do is raise a police report, raise it with Action Fraud and believe nothing Mick tells you.