Maude Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 To be completely honest it's looking like a very good time to start enjoying the gear we've already got. I know, I know, don't slam the BC door as I leave. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Just remember... ”Tax needn’t be taxing” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Anyone else waiting.....? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, fretmeister said: Anyone else waiting.....? I'm seeing an opportunity here.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIG-BUTT-004-BASS-made-in-USA-/174546578948?hash=item28a3c96e04%3Ag%3AP2cAAOSw9iNbVddm&nma=true&si=1eTn5ugYrGxJiVF%2F59%2BQWYsMNJs%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Bluejay Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Anyone see this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Silvia Bluejay said: Anyone see this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721 Yes, I saw that as well. Makes you wonder how sustainable this wheeze by Boris to get foreigners to collect UK tax is and when it will be quietly dropped? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Silvia Bluejay said: Anyone see this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721 Not only seen it, my wife talked to some suppliers that said it wasn't worth the hassle of shipping to the UK, and that they couldn't get couries to transfer the stuff anyway for the same sort of prices that they used to. Unfortunately budget couriers are paid by the mile, not the hour, so it doesn't make economic sense for them to risk the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Yup, saw this about ten min ago, was going to post it....... ......the UK world is going to be stuffed with these sort of problems, all of which will get sorted out - eventually (whether or not that happens in my lifetime is another matter) 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Silvia Bluejay said: Anyone see this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721 Yes, saw it yesterday. It's SO, so sad.. The faster this thing falls, the faster we might get something sensible going on. PS. anyone got TABs for "Ode to Joy" ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Have you not been reading the other posts in the thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Browning Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 That Scandinavian company has got it wrong. They will only need a UK VAT registration if they source and deliver within the UK. They won't be able to register in the UK if they just sell to the UK. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia Bluejay Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 That makes more sense. But I do hope the powers that be do something to fix this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Silvia Bluejay said: Anyone see this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721 Their loss. If our money's not good enough for them, I'll buy elsewhere. End of 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Browning Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I guess we're about to find how important a market the UK is (for EU businesses) against the rest of the world. I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Thomann (or similar) could live without us quite easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Al Krow said: Their loss. If our money's not good enough for them, I'll buy elsewhere. End of 😉 You do realise that choice is a good thing? Without choice, you get monopolies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) The deviants are in trouble now... https://winterfetish.com/blogs/news/uk-vat (edit - maybe NSFW...?) - it says UK VAT I just discovered that the UK imagines that my business will be willing to register with the UK and collect taxes for them. I can only chaulk that up to them being silly people. Due to this, as of December 20th I will no longer be able to take orders that have a ship to address in the UK. Edited January 4, 2021 by EBS_freak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Browning Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Has the bottom fallen out of their world, like the guy a few posts above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 As that link is bicycle related, I've just seen that Brooks, the iconic British saddle manufacturer has put UK sales on hold for the minute while they work out their plan. The company was sold to an Italian one 20 or so years ago, but manufacturing has stayed in the UK, as that is what the rest of the world expects from Brooks, quality british made, leather saddles, and other goods. It seems logistically odd, but all their products are shipped to Italy, to then be distributed around the world. They now face this odd situation of shipping back to the UK, so have put it on hold. This has, for now, stopped UK cyclists buying the most iconic of UK cycle parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Browning Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: The deviants are in trouble now... https://winterfetish.com/blogs/news/uk-vat (edit - maybe NSFW...?) - it says UK VAT I just discovered that the UK imagines that my business will be willing to register with the UK and collect taxes for them. I can only chaulk that up to them being silly people. Due to this, as of December 20th I will no longer be able to take orders that have a ship to address in the UK. Again wrong. A non-UK business only has to register if it sources and delivers within the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Maude said: As that link is bicycle related, I've just seen that Brooks, the iconic British saddle manufacturer has put UK sales on hold for the minute while they work out their plan. The company was sold to an Italian one 20 or so years ago, but manufacturing has stayed in the UK, as that is what the rest of the world expects from Brooks, quality british made, leather saddles, and other goods. It seems logistically odd, but all their products are shipped to Italy, to then be distributed around the world. They now face this odd situation of shipping back to the UK, so have put it on hold. This has, for now, stopped UK cyclists buying the most iconic of UK cycle parts. Presumably it would be relatively easy for them to switch production to Italy or elsewhere in the EU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Steve Browning said: Again wrong. A non-UK business only has to register if it sources and delivers within the UK. Since there are several companies now coming up with this same problem, it would suggest that someone is giving them the wrong advice. Edited January 4, 2021 by BigRedX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Steve Browning said: Again wrong. A non-UK business only has to register if it sources and delivers within the UK. Not wrong. We have to look at the net result. Whether the vendor understands what is required or not, or whether they are misinformed or not, what we have here is that the UK can no longer buy from them. That's our loss... especially if other vendors start doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, peteb said: Presumably it would be relatively easy for them to switch production to Italy or elsewhere in the EU? I would imagine, but that might impact on sales as buying Brooks means buying British, it's all part of the image. Similar to Fender moving all production out of America. I assume they're just trying to sort out the details and will then carry on as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, peteb said: Presumably it would be relatively easy for them to switch production to Italy or elsewhere in the EU? So - as you say, remove the manufacturing and jobs... from the UK. Wahey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Browning Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Maude said: As that link is bicycle related, I've just seen that Brooks, the iconic British saddle manufacturer has put UK sales on hold for the minute while they work out their plan. The company was sold to an Italian one 20 or so years ago, but manufacturing has stayed in the UK, as that is what the rest of the world expects from Brooks, quality british made, leather saddles, and other goods. It seems logistically odd, but all their products are shipped to Italy, to then be distributed around the world. They now face this odd situation of shipping back to the UK, so have put it on hold. This has, for now, stopped UK cyclists buying the most iconic of UK cycle parts. Just now, BigRedX said: Since there are several companies now coming up with problem, it would suggest that someone is giving them the wrong advice. The bloke down the pub is the usual culprit! To have an obligation to register in the UK, you have to make 'taxable supplies' where the place of supply is the UK. When goods remain within the UK there is a clear obligation. A UK business supplying out of the UK is now exporting and will not charge VAT. Conversely, a non-UK business exports to the UK and the recipient (whether a business or individual) is responsible for dealing with the VAT. I won't bring incoterms into account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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