Eldon Tyrell Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Chiliwailer said: Too right, I thought the £2200 I paid for my HH Special in 2018 took the pi55. Congrats, £2200 sounds like a great bargain now 😉 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Chiliwailer said: Too right, I thought the £2200 I paid for my HH Special in 2018 took the pi55. I thought £1500 for my piezo 3eq was too much. 1 Quote
Chiliwailer Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, AndyTravis said: I thought £1500 for my piezo 3eq was too much. Ah man remember them, the first ‘2 pickup’ Rays weren’t they?!! Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Chiliwailer said: Ah man remember them, the first ‘2 pickup’ Rays weren’t they?!! Yeah, stupid idea. Piezo sounded crap. 1 Quote
Chiliwailer Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, AndyTravis said: Yeah, stupid idea. Piezo sounded crap. Definitely, and the cramed controls looked all wrong. Hey ho. Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chiliwailer said: Definitely, and the cramed controls looked all wrong. Hey ho. Well, that bothered me more. Wouldn’t have minded a fretless with the piezo. But on Ash/Maple/fretted...daft 1 Quote
Chiliwailer Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: Wouldn’t have minded a fretless with the piezo. Yeah, sounds better, so given the size of your past conquests, one might be on future horizons for you... Quote
TheGreek Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Aren't these price rises going to impact on the price of used Rays? If nobody wants to pay £2-3k for a new one, but people still want to own a Ray, aren't the price of used ones going to go up? Forget about Stocks & Shares - invest in used Stingrays. Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chiliwailer said: Yeah, sounds better, so given the size of your past conquests, one might be on future horizons for you... Nah. Not interested in fretless and I keep one I’m happy with just in case... 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Just now, TheGreek said: Aren't these price rises going to impact on the price of used Rays? If nobody wants to pay £2-3k for a new one, but people still want to own a Ray, aren't the price of used ones going to go up? Forget about Stocks & Shares - invest in used Stingrays. Shurrup. They’ll hear you... but I Want a 93/4 for £800 Edited January 20, 2021 by AndyTravis 1 Quote
Eldon Tyrell Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheGreek said: Aren't these price rises going to impact on the price of used Rays? If nobody wants to pay £2-3k for a new one, but people still want to own a Ray, aren't the price of used ones going to go up? Forget about Stocks & Shares - invest in used Stingrays. Makes a lot of sense. I guess I better get a used one for a decent price before sellers figure out what's going on with the new and crazy prices 🙂 Quote
Chiliwailer Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 @hiram.k.hackenbacker will be a millionaire on paper then with those new used prices 😂 3 Quote
Kev Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Yup, 2nd hand market will move with it for sure. If people keep buying them, which they will, they'll keep going up.... It really doesn't seem that long ago you could pick up an old US 2 band Stingray new for £900. I'm only 32 so its not like I'm thinking of the good old days exactly... 2 Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Kev said: Yup, 2nd hand market will move with it for sure. If people keep buying them, which they will, they'll keep going up.... It really doesn't seem that long ago you could pick up an old US 2 band Stingray new for £900. I'm only 32 so its not like I'm thinking of the good old days exactly... I couldn’t fetch £750 for my 2eq, and it was bloody pristine. Ah well. 1 Quote
Musicman20 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 God knows what the Classics will be when they bring them back... Quote
AndyTravis Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Musicman20 said: God knows what the Classics will be when they bring them back... £8000 (just a thing I’m saying to all price predictions tonight) Quote
drTStingray Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 59 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: Yeah, stupid idea. Piezo sounded crap. The one in my fretted Bongo 5HH sounds great - anyway your £1500 must have been early 2000s? I also think these new prices are bonkers but think it's likely it's caused by leaving the EU and any trade deal there was with the US. The champagne sparkle Stingray on Andertons is a BFR model which attracts a mark up - from last year - but is around the same price as one of the new sparkle models (the colour will also attract a mark up from base price) - my guess is there is around 20% or more added. Is this just the start of another all round hike in instrument prices from the US following Brexit actually happening? Thanks Nige 😏 Quote
Eldon Tyrell Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Musicman20 said: God knows what the Classics will be when they bring them back... Good point. They are normally a bit more expensive than the Specials. Guess I better get a used one before these also become unaffordable. Quote
Musicman20 Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, drTStingray said: The one in my fretted Bongo 5HH sounds great - anyway your £1500 must have been early 2000s? I also think these new prices are bonkers but think it's likely it's caused by leaving the EU and any trade deal there was with the US. The champagne sparkle Stingray on Andertons is a BFR model which attracts a mark up - from last year - but is around the same price as one of the new sparkle models (the colour will also attract a mark up from base price) - my guess is there is around 20% or more added. Is this just the start of another all round hike in instrument prices from the US following Brexit actually happening? Thanks Nige 😏 Not sure... PRS SEs and Fenders on the guitar side haven't increased as much for 2021... 1 1 Quote
drTStingray Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 I really like the blue and the frost green colours - they're the cheapest but still too much - even more so the Orange Burst Bongo - goodness knows what the price of a 5 HH Bongo will be (or SR5HH for that matter 😯) Quote
Eldon Tyrell Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Musicman20 said: God knows what the Classics will be when they bring them back... Although, the Classic probably won't come back as I posted yesterday: "I did some googling and found this in the EB forum. Dargin from EB customer service wrote back in September: "I don't think we'll make an Old Smoothie or Classic how we used to again. We'll have a limited version of a Classic drop soon and then hopefully we can improve those concepts in 2022." Sounds to me like an even more expensive "new and improved" Classic/Old Smoothie getting released in 2022. Then we will look back at this thread and say: "we really should have bought the new Stingrays when they were still affordable" 😉 Quote
drTStingray Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Musicman20 said: Not sure... PRS SEs and Fenders on the guitar side haven't increased as much for 2021... US made ones though? Guess we'll have to wait and see. Quote
Eldon Tyrell Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Musicman20 said: Not sure... PRS SEs and Fenders on the guitar side haven't increased as much for 2021... Good point. Even the brand new 75th Anniversary US Fender P is only £150 more than the current Fender Pro II (£1849 vs. £1699, Andertons). So, not sure why EBMM thinks that charging £750-£1000 more is such a good idea. Quote
Eldon Tyrell Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, AndyTravis said: £8000 (just a thing I’m saying to all price predictions tonight) Well, if they keep pumping up the price by 43%, then we will be there in 3 years 😎 Quote
40hz Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Just playing devil's advocate here . . . I often think, will there come a point in the not too distant future, where sales of brand new Stingrays just absolutely bottom out due to the year on year increases (for varying reasons of course) to the point where they are flat out un-affordable to most people? What will Ernie Ball do this scenario? In fairness to Ernie Ball, it's not just them. Many, many manufacturers (Warwick basses another culprit of insane pricing) are hiking prices at an alarming rate over the last few years (massively out of sync with inflation) Where does it stop? Will the UK just not be a concern of manufacturers in the not too distant future? Edited January 20, 2021 by 40hz Quote
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