IvanBass456 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 @chris_b That's exactly my thought! If I wanted, I even might resell both in a few weeks, at this price point So, not much to loose... @Al Krow I know that. I would love to get a BB2 but if I consider the price of a new BB2 + Customs' fees and VAT, it's getting very expensive. But I know it would offer all what I miss with the SM and it would soften the sound of the SM if combined. The pair SM + BB2 would be tremendous I know. But they're rare in the 2nd hand market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) I'm not suggesting anything as fancy as a SM + BB2 Just a single BB2 instead of two SMs. The cost should be less, but you won't get quite as big a sound from just one speaker as you will from two 12" speakers. It will, however, be very convenient! Edited April 23, 2021 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanBass456 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 @Al Krow agreed. And the 2 SM + GK head combination may be... (too) agressive ^^ The BB2 should be the logical choice for the longer term. But for now, I'll see if I pull the trigger for this 2nd midget. I'll let you know guys. Have a growly and groovy weekend and thanks for all your inputs! 😇 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinehead Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Al Krow said: Alex describes a SM as a mini BB2. Another alternative to two SMs might be a single BB2. I have a BB2 and a SM. The BB2 is easily my favourite but the SM gets plenty of gigs on smaller pub stages. They are both great cabs, with the BB2 having a bigger and deeper sound. To the OP, if I was in your position I would buy the second SM. The BB2 and SM have the same speaker, just with different size enclosures. But I think a pair of SM would be everything you'd ever need. EDIT. I had a pair of Gen 2 Midgets and that was a superb lightweight and compact rig. A pair of SM would be even better. Frank. Edited April 23, 2021 by machinehead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 12 hours ago, IvanBass456 said: boosting the treble and bass as well as the VPF filter a lot That's heavily scooped in the mids. Runs counter to getting a full rich sound in the midst of a band mix. You won't be unhappy with a 2nd SM. To get proper happy you're going to have to EQ with your ears, with the band. If the GK you're looking at has the usual GK scoop baked in you might like it with the knobs at noon. Actual neutral would be 10, 2, 1, 10 o'clock, bass to treble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanBass456 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 @Downunderwonder I only scoop one of either the low mid or high mid freq, never the two of them + the natural mid boost of the markbass amp and the aguilar pups on my Mayones makes the sound rather balanced and present in the mid frequencies in the end. @machineheadquick and affordable shot for a 2nd SM, or patience and savings for a BB2, that's the deal 🙂 I like my SM much but I really want to hear how that BB2 sounds ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanBass456 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Hello BC'ers, I've finally pulled the trigger for a 2nd hand BB2. On his own, it is a joy to hear it restitute all the sound spectrum from very low to very high freq. It is especially wonderful to hear through a 6 strings. it certainly gives a more soft and rounded tone than the Super Midget. However, I'm not yet convinced of the pairing BB2 + SM. I find they are voiced quiet differently and it is even more obvious at practice volume. I guess I maybe should avoid engaging both the SM's tweeter and the BB2's HF, but rather 1 of them. The voicing of both cabs should compare more evenly at gig volume, I guess ^^ I'll come back later with a nurtured feedback about using them together I also have ordered a GK Legacy 800 but I find it is too powerful for my needs and hardly volume-manageable for practice XD I loved the tone, clarity and precision but I'm more likely to get a 2nd hand Fusion 500 watts for its warmer vibe and lesser power-handling. This legacy 800 will be returned unfortunately.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokolotivet Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Just found a Big Twin T used. Should I buy that one, or save for a Big Twin 2 (3.gen)? Anyone tried them both? Sonic difference etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) On 19/06/2021 at 23:47, Mokolotivet said: Just found a Big Twin T used. Should I buy that one, or save for a Big Twin 2 (3.gen)? Anyone tried them both? Sonic difference etc? . Edited September 16, 2021 by Reggaebass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Talking barefaced differences, has anyone tried the 2x10S , if so what is it like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I had the 210 and 410, as per their name they’re much warmer/softer sounding, less clinical than the Compacts/Midgets etc. You can add highs to them no problem but that sharp modern top end doesn’t come through as that’s not their game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: I had the 210 Thanks Lozz, I’ve never had anything less than a 15, do they put out the lows well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) Yes nice lows but again not the super modern type low lows that we hear now, more like the low end of say 70s & 80s bands, such as The Jam, Duran Duran, Wham etc, lows that were heard as well as felt. Edited September 16, 2021 by Lozz196 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsieblue Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) Yep - Lozz is right on this. I recently swapped out 2 x BF Big Baby for 2 x One10's as I found the voicing better for my hard rock band. The voicing is pretty much where I need it to be rather than having to 'find' it on the super transparent Big Baby. Alex at BF says to think of them as two ranges with two voices, the clear and transparent 12XN Driver Range and the Retro 10CR Driver Range Edited September 16, 2021 by bagsieblue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, bagsieblue said: Alex at BF Thanks, it was Alex that suggested the 2x10s to me, he said they were fat and warm sounding, I was just wondering if they would go deep enough for what I play, I’ve never had 10s before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I’m with @bagsieblue on this. I loved the Super Compact, it’s a bloody marvellous cab. But the Tens… there’s something about them which means my rig is now a pair of One10s and it slays all in its wake. Plenty of punch, low end thump, enough top end sparkle for my rock tastes. I now have. Glockenklang Blue Rock and its main EQ is set completely flat, just add the drive to suit, plus a tweak of the Voice control. Perfection. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman7755 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) On 16/09/2021 at 16:48, Reggaebass said: Thanks, it was Alex that suggested the 2x10s to me, he said they were fat and warm sounding, I was just wondering if they would go deep enough for what I play, I’ve never had 10s before A well designed 10 loaded cab will have plenty of bottom end. At one point I scaled down my rig from a 4 x 10 plus 1 x 15 monster stack to single 2 x 10 cab (of much higher quality) and it was still plenty loud and deep enough for any conceivable pub/club gig with a suitable gutsy amp. EDIT: I say this as a 5-string player (low B) as well. Edited September 18, 2021 by bassman7755 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 9 hours ago, bassman7755 said: A well designed 10 loaded cab will have plenty of bottom end Thanks for that bassman, I’ve only ever had 15s so I guess that I’m just a bit sceptical that they will give me the fatness and thickness I’m looking for, but I believe things have moved on since the big cab days, so I might try a 2x10S , as it’s mainly for home use at the moment 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Reggaebass said: Thanks for that bassman, I’ve only ever had 15s so I guess that I’m just a bit sceptical that they will give me the fatness and thickness I’m looking for, but I believe things have moved on since the big cab days, so I might try a 2x10S , as it’s mainly for home use at the moment 🙂 The size of a driver bears no relation to the sound it makes. There are 10's that go lower than 15's, there are 12's that go higher than 10's. Then throw in the design of the cab to get an even wider range of frequencies. Barefaced make exceedingly good cabs. I see you've already been speaking to Alex. I'd believe him. He operates a 30 day return, so if he gives bad advice, just to sell a cab, he knows it'll be coming straight back. He was spot on when I spoke to them about my cabs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, chris_b said: I see you've already been speaking to Alex Thanks Chris, yeah he’s a cool guy, he explained quite a lot to me, he seemed to think the 2x10S would be a good match for the V4-B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassman7755 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Reggaebass said: Thanks for that bassman, I’ve only ever had 15s so I guess that I’m just a bit sceptical Your just going to have take a punt, Alex's recommendations are generally on the money and you've got a 30 day trial so... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, bassman7755 said: Your just going to have take a punt, Alex's recommendations are generally on the money and you've got a 30 day trial so... I’ll probably try one used first before I buy a new one, there was a nice one on here a while back but I wasn’t looking then 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, Reggaebass said: I’ll probably try one used first before I buy a new one, there was a nice one on here a while back but I wasn’t looking then 🙂 Do what I did. . . buy a used one first then a second new one. 2 BF 210's sound great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Just now, chris_b said: Do what I did. . . buy a used one first then a second new one. 2 BF 210's sound great. Good plan 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Not knowing much about ohms and things, would the maths work with a BF big baby 2 and a 100w valve amp, ie would it drive it ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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