stewblack Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Hi. Is there an easy way to correct the simplest of problems i.e. when a created patch or sound or whatever is quieter than the clean bass sound? I have a great effect that's taken a very long time to create but the volume drops away whenevr |I engage it. Yes I am aware of the output level control on the unit itself, but imagine the day when I manage to programme a second useable sound, and mnaybe even a third. I would want them all to balance against the clean sound and not need to be changing them all to correct volume spikes and dips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Guess what? Darwin award goes to Stew. Turns out the software had 'forgotten' about the midi interface I use. The reason changing the output levels made no discernable difference to the sound was.... they were making no difference to the pedal. I assumed once paired to the pedal, my desktop wouldn't need telling again to use the interface. So now my output levels are much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Excellent news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 I don't feel at all stupid 🤦🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, stewblack said: I don't feel at all stupid 🤦🏼♂️ I frequently do, but I have got over myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 One tip: hit an init patch in the editor, set the INSTR slider in the Main Mixer to 127 then match the level to the bypassed signal using the hardware output dial. (Unless you want 127 to represent a greater-than-unity-gain level.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AinsleyWalker Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) On 20/01/2021 at 20:37, stewblack said: Hi. Is there an easy way to correct the simplest of problems i.e. when a created patch or sound or whatever is quieter than the clean bass sound? I have a great effect that's taken a very long time to create but the volume drops away whenevr |I engage it. Yes I am aware of the output level control on the unit itself, but imagine the day when I manage to programme a second useable sound, and mnaybe even a third. I would want them all to balance against the clean sound and not need to be changing them all to correct volume spikes and dips. I have this issue quite a lot, especially when changing room/amp set up. Patches that I thought were balanced are either too loud, lacking in a certain freq range and it can be hard to tweak those aspects on the fly. Amazing pedal but would be completed with dedicated Bass, Mid, Treble and Dry dials I think (space would be an issue I suppose) Edited April 9, 2021 by AinsleyWalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, AinsleyWalker said: I have this issue quite a lot, especially when changing room/amp set up. Patches that I thought were balanced are either too loud, lacking in a certain freq range and it can be hard to tweak those aspects on the fly. Amazing pedal but would be completed with dedicated Bass, Mid, Treble and Dry dials I think (space would be an issue I suppose) Room wouldn't be a problem! There are some people here who have rehoused their FIs in tiny enclosures. I never want to programme the pedal from the box, I only want to go up and down through the presets - which needs dedicated footswitches not double tapping the up to go down - and exactly as you say volume, and most crucial of all a dry mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 09/04/2021 at 13:33, stewblack said: Room wouldn't be a problem! There are some people here who have rehoused their FIs in tiny enclosures. I never want to programme the pedal from the box, I only want to go up and down through the presets - which needs dedicated footswitches not double tapping the up to go down - and exactly as you say volume, and most crucial of all a dry mix. The balance parameter is a dry/wet mix control but it is relative to the level set in the patch and only has coarse adjustment of four notches either side of that value. If you have EQ enabled in a patch and it is the last effect in the chain (i.e. chorus/delay cannot be active) then the “effect” parameter is a tilt EQ control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AinsleyWalker Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 18/04/2021 at 11:34, Quatschmacher said: The balance parameter is a dry/wet mix control but it is relative to the level set in the patch and only has coarse adjustment of four notches either side of that value. If you have EQ enabled in a patch and it is the last effect in the chain (i.e. chorus/delay cannot be active) then the “effect” parameter is a tilt EQ control. I'm aware of all this, but as you say it's all relative to how the patch is set up, and that is the issue. Just hard to make precise changes on the fly without whipping out the laptop.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 2 hours ago, AinsleyWalker said: I'm aware of all this, but as you say it's all relative to how the patch is set up, and that is the issue. Just hard to make precise changes on the fly without whipping out the laptop.. If you have a MIDI controller you can do this via CC messages as the entire MIDI implementation is publicly available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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