J66Bass Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Should basschat request GOODS FROM EU ON SALE SHOULD BE as THORMAN so PRICE FOR UK ONLY VAT ADDED ON ARRIVAL PLUS FREE or not free shipping! ! Thanks , hope you are understanding me , on Friday LBC RADIO WAS ON A mission to clarify this topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I agree it's a confusing time buying from the EU here in the UK, but, it's just as confusing for a seller in the EU selling to the UK. If I were an EU seller I might be inclined to think, 'you chose this, you can work it out.' We (the UK) have made a very difficult situation for everyone but as usual we want everyone to make it easy for us. Unless I'm missing the meaning of the OP. 🙂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J66Bass Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Correct that is my point 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Setting any politics aside, it is a shame to lose access to all those fantastic used basses for sale in the rest of Europe that are now unrealistic with 20% VAT added - and vice versa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshy Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, FDC484950 said: Setting any politics aside, it is a shame to lose access to all those fantastic used basses for sale in the rest of Europe that are now unrealistic with 20% VAT added - and vice versa Yeah I have had a few people asking me to reduce the bass cost by 20% for them to buy, its simply not worth it and I've kept them instead. Trading into the EU is going to be very difficult indeed. Its actually better value buying basses from the US atm. Better value for money anyway and much more choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I think we just need time to get used to the new system. I'm not certain because I haven't had the need to buy anything yet, but isn't it below £135 the seller lists item 'including VAT' which they collect, over £135 they list it as 'plus VAT' which the courier will collect and charge a fee for. Aren't all VAT applicable items over the threshold sold as 'plus VAT'? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Bitch-blues Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I'm glad your discussing this, I buy all sorts from abroad, or I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J66Bass Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 My friend in France bought a brand new status from Status shop he didn’t have to pay VAT IN FRANCE because it was made in uk and already tax in uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, J66Bass said: My friend in France bought a brand new status from Status shop he didn’t have to pay VAT IN FRANCE because it was made in uk and already tax in uk I don't think that it's what really happened. In fact as he bought through a U.K. VAT registered society (shop if you prefer), it was sold without the U.K. VAT and he just paid the French VAT, which means no difference for him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J66Bass Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Ok thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLowDown Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) VAT is added no matter the price. It's not a new tax. Previously the displayed price included VAT but now it doesn't.. If the net value is above £135 then it's handled by the couriers, which means that it also included handling costs. If equal or below then it's handled by the retailer and there is nothing extra to pay I think it's safest to choose items below or equal to £135 because, in theory, the couriers could charge whatever they like for the handling costs, and you never know beforehand at the time of purchase how much you're going to have to pay. Edited January 31, 2021 by TheLowDown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheLowDown said: VAT is added no matter the price. It's not a new tax. Previously the displayed price included VAT but now it doesn't.. If the net value is above £135 then it's handled by the couriers, which means that it also included handling costs. If equal or below then it's handled by the retailer and there is nothing extra to pay I think it's safest to choose items below or equal to £135 because, in theory, the couriers could charge whatever they like for the handling costs, and you never know beforehand at the time of purchase how much you're going to have to pay. I think the point of the OP’s thread was to indicate that used sales from EU to UK and vice versa will now attract VAT, when this wasn’t the case previously, and that BC should indicate this on ads. I think this has been discussed already on a number (ever-growing) threads on Thomann, Br***t and new/used sales from 2021-on. Edited January 31, 2021 by FDC484950 Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Urm, urm, why not be proactive and simply put a note in your advert when you're selling something saying you're outiside U.K. or simply check if this item you must have is in the U.K. or elsewhere. If it's elsewhere, you'll have to pay the VAT, the incoming taxes and the adminstrative fee. There is no need for such a caution, just a bit of common sense. That said, a lot of private people are just not selling anymore to the U.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Used products attracting VAT at all is wrong IMO, it's not like tax, of some description, hasn't been paid once already, never mind that private individuals can't (for the majority) then claim it back. I'm not making a point, just using BC as bit of 'B word' bollix up, catharsis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) The VAT has been paid outside the U.K., at least once, but not in the U.K., so HMRC needs to get it back, even if in this particular case there is absolutely no added value, but that's the way it works, hélas. Edited January 31, 2021 by Hellzero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Well the Govt did say there woud be teething problems in the transition from one system to another... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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